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The Representation and Satire of Tragedy
1. Represent it as having a civic function
> central to Athenian life
> change the city
> the debate of what makes a good poet in the agon
> didactic function
> comedy's representation of tragedy reveals how central tragedy was to Athenian cultural life
- Euripides in Frogs: "we make people in our cities better"
- Aeschylus: "children have teachers to instruct them, young men have poets"
2. Shows the established canon of the 3 tragedians
- his focus on Sophocles, Euripides and Aeschylus demonstrates how the canon of the three great tragedians was already being established
3. Satirised Tragedy
> Dover - old ways good, new ways bad
> Kovacs - wayward
> the presentation of Euripides and Aeschylus
> high flown language of the chorus
> Frogs is dominated by the personalities if the individual tragedians and the idea that tragic poetry can save Athens: "I came down for a poet. Why? So that the city could be saved and put on plays."
> Aristophanes' satirises the tragedians themselves as well
The Role of the Gods
1. Representation of Dionysus
> Aristophanes' representation of Dionysus is far from his character in Bacchae - he is cowardly and a buffoon.
- mocking the gods in comedy was not considered blasphemous
- especially as it is at the festival to Dionysus
- Cartledge
> MacDowell - assumed
> Other comics used Dionysus' character in their plays (Cratinus' 'Dionysus as Paris')
> In Frogs, he overturns the traditional attributes of Dionysus - eg. the scene in which both he and Xanthias are whipped - they both feel pain / he is cowardly and lazy
- in Bacchae he is beautiful whereas he is out of shape and ugly in Frogs (POTS)
- he represents the 'everyman' figure, he is not unlikeable.
> Dionysus starts off as a comic character but becomes gradually less of one at the end - he is still the saviour of Athens in bringing Aeschylus back.
> Stanford - "fickle, wayward Athenians of the time"
Death and the Afterlife
1. Traditional
> Frogs depicts the traditional poetic view of the afterlife - eg. the dead as ghosts with their old personalities and memories
- Hades is neither a place of punishment or blessing, but they're prefer to be alive
2. Parodied
- many of the elements are gently parodied however: Charon the ferryman / Heracles is simply a dog-thief / Pluto is a genial host
- Dionysus travelling down to the underworld is repeating of a folkloric story-pattern of the hero travelling to the underworld alive to fulfil a quest.
3. Eleusinian Mysteries
> The Chorus of Initiates represent a strand in Greek beliefs about the afterlife, since they consist of the Eleusinian Mysteries - it was open to everyone in the Greek world
- to reveal the secrets of the cult was considered a serious offence and making fun of them would considered deeply shocking, and so Aristophanes had to deal with the subject delicately to avoid upsetting his audience
- they pray to Iacchus and Demeter
- the resurrection of Aeschylus at the end of the play is referential to the promises of the cult of being reborn after death
- A sense of Hope to the audience to be saved from their current state.
Eleusinian Mysteries
The cult of the mother goddess Demeter and a very popular Athenian festival celebrated each year for the mother and the maiden, Persephone. This cult promised all its members a blissful afterlife.
The Importance of the Polis
> the preoccupations of Athenian citizens are central to comedy's themes.
> jokes are made at social / political / domestic matters
> comedy makes fun of daily life and makes fun of its members, regardless of class
Position and Role of Women
1. Tragedy teaches them
> there are a few female characters in Frogs - although women's place in society is still discussed
- Aeschylus: "you persuaded noble ladies, wives of noble husbands, to drink hemlock because they were ashamed of your Bellerophon" ('Stheneboeas' by Euripides)
- Aeschylus argues that this portrayal of women brings shame on the whole female sex, going as far as claiming it caused an epidemic of suicide
- adulterous women (like Stheneboeas) were dangerous to the citizen rights of children and husbands and so featured heavily in both tragedy and comedy - matter of serious concern
> Dionysus also claims that Euripides' own wife was adulterous, making him a laughing stock who is unable to avoid the same fate that befell his characters
2. Polemic presentation of them
> Sexual maid
> Panoceutria and Planthane
Political Ideas and Ideals
1. Written in a time of crisis and desperate fear
> Frogs was produced at a very dark time of crisis in Athens - the impending defeat from Sparta as they ran out of manpower and money - they were at risk of exile / death or imprisonment of the whole male population / enslavement of the children and women - very real danger
2. Nostalgia in Aeschylus
> Tone of nostalgia and returning to old ways in seen in the whole of the play - Dionysus' quest
- Aeschylus winning encapsulates a desire to return to virtues of the past
- current state of Athens: "shirkers and layabouts, the cheats and villains"
- he also refers to his play 'Persae' - a time when Greece was united against a mighty power and won
- Ruffell
3. Parabasis
> THE PARABASIS - nostalgia becomes political - the imagery of the coins / the foreign stock of Athenian generals
> Aristophanes specifically gives advice on the recalling of the citizens who ruled during the oligarchic coup of 411 - this advice must have been controversial as it support traitors of democracy.
- although the advice was followed the next year, after they lost the war.
- Cartledge
Role of Slaves
1. Xanthias and Dionysus
> Frogs generates humour from the boundary between slaves and citizens
- the relationship between Dionysus and Xanthias is one of competition and 'banter'.
> Xanthias overturns the idea that slaves are inferior to free men (and even gods) and openly calls Dionysus a "fool" - outwitting him with the Heracles costume frequently
> They both turn out to be equal in withstanding pain
- Cartledge - bold
2. Pluto's slave and Xanthias
- in talking to Pluto's slave he also shows how he constantly gets away with insubordinate behaviour.
> the intelligence and resilience of the slaves could just be a feature of comedy, inverting real life to parody - much like Dionysus as the fool - it is not calling for social change
> the conversation between Pluto's slave and Xanthias would have touched a nerve with the audience - they make allegiance to each other and talk about eavesdropping and cursing their masters - revelling in it almost sexually
3. The Plataean citizen/slaves
> However, the references to the Battle of Arginusae, and the freeing of the slaves being "the only sensible thing you've done!" parallels the blurred boundary in the play
Topic Review: How does Aristophanes present tragedy? How accurate do you think his parody is?
Topic Review: Is Dionysus in Frogs simply a figure of fun? Does he tell us anything about how the Athenians views their gods?
Topic Review: What picture of the underworld do we find in Frogs?
Topic Review: What sought of stereotypes do we find in Frogs about the roles people from social positions should adopt?