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Divine
related to a god; supremely good or beautiful
Timeless
Boethius's perspective
Everlasting
Swinburnes persepective
If God knows the future as part of his omniscience what does this mean
God foreknows all my acts
What God foresees must happen
Therefore, if my acts must happen then they cannot be free
Divine foreknowledge
God knows what will happen, God is omniscient, knows past, present, and future)
Who supports the view that God knows the future as part of his omniscience
John Calvin
Predestination
Before creation God determined the fate of the universe throughout all of time and space
John Calvin quote on predestination
'For he does not create everyone in the same condition, but ordains eternal life for some and eternal damnation for others'
Biblical quote that supports predestination
'In love he predestined us..' Ephesians 1:5
What does the view of predestination mean God has done
Means God has already chosen (pre elected) who will be saved and who will be eternally damned
What was boethius' problem with divine foreknowledge
How can God have divine foreknowledge of the future (full omniscience) and humans beings still remain free agents
Boethius quote that argues his problem with divine foreknowledge
'Hopeless conflict between divine foreknowledge of all things and freedom of human will'
What problem does Boethius work through
If God knows the future of our actions how are our actions therefore free?
What does God being able to see our future actions mean
It means God cannot be fooled or deceived and whatever Gods providence foresees will happen
Providence
Knowledge of the future
What does this mean for the future
The future cannot change otherwise what God sees is just 'fallible knowledge' (flawed knowledge)
If God has full knowledge does this mean we are free
No, Boethius does not agree with this
What problem does boethius have
That we do not have free will if God has divine foreknowledge
Why does boethius believe it is pointless to argue a pre deterministic God whereby God has knowledge of all our actions
Because it will be pointless to reward and punish if my actions are not free/voluntary and therefore not governed by my own will it is therefore unjust to punish or reward me
Who does Boethius believe should be in control of our actions
Ourselves
Vices
Bad
Virtues
Good
What is the conflict with Boethius' view
God should be able to have full knowledge but i must be able to have free will over my actions. It isn't fair for someone to be pre destined to hell by acting out what God already decided
What is boethius
A traditionalist (believes good go to heaven and bad go to hell)
What is Boethius' answer to omniscience
God is eternal because Gods eternity explains how God can be both omniscient and our free will
How does God being eternal explain Gods omniscience and allow humans to have free will
As God doesn't see past, present and future but instead sees time together as the 'eternal present'. Whilst having full knowledge of time we humans are in control of the events we do within that
What does boethius conclude
This is 'not knowledge of future events but knowledge of a never changing present'
Does boethius beleive in divine foreknowledge (Calvinistic perspective)
No
Aquinas quote about Gods omniscience
'God sees all things together and not successively'
What does Aquinas' quote mean
God sees everything but not linear (not like the human perspective on time). God takes in history as a whole
Does Aquinas believe in Divine foreknowledge
No
What is Gods perspective of time
A 'Birds Eye view'
How does the walkers up the hill example explain how God doesn't interfere with our free will
Theres a hill and God is sat on top of it and below this hill there are paths where walkers are walking, the walkers are humans making there decisions, God can see the path and the walkers but does not interfere with the decision of which path each walker takes
What does Aquinas' view show
Both a Boethius' perspective and Swinburne perspective
Swinburne argument about everlasting omniscience
Gods omniscience is limited to what is logically possible. The future has not happened yet making it unknown. God is omniscient=perfect knowledge of what has occurred and is occurring this means Gods knowledge changes over time. God can acquire new knowledge as time passes
Self imposed limitation in everlasting omniscience (vardy and Macquarie have similar view)
God makes deliberate choice to limit what he knows = human free will
Schleirmacher argument about everlasting omniscience
God is aware of all possible choices but we are free to decide which ones to choose
What does scheiermacher argue about the problem of whether Gods omniscience restricts our freedom
He argues that there is possible solution to the problem
What analogy does schleiermacher use to explain his argument
He drew the analogy of the knowledge that close friends have of each others future behaviours=omniscience but still free will
What example does schleirmarcher use to explaine his analogy
When is go out with my friend she doesn't like to drink after eating we always have go for a b tootle of wine before our meal rather than after
What is schleirmacher saying with is analogy and example
He's saying his example and analogy are comparable with Gods knowledge of our actions, his knowledge does not force or affect what we choose to do therefore we can be hold morally responsible
Who else supports schleirmacher
Luis of molina- Gods omniscience includes all possibilities
Augustine- God simply knows our choices
Philosophical problems with divine foreknowledge
How can humans be held responsible for their actions?
How can human actions be judged 'evil' and therefore punished if they do not have free will?
And does this make God repsonsible for suffering?
Classic problem of evil=Epicurus and Hume
Philosophical problems with boethius omniscience
Can God really know everything if God doesnt know what it's like to change?
Tries to support free will of humans and allows for God to reward and punish justly
But even if God just sees events not on a timescale are we totally free?
Philosophical problems with limited omniscience
Can God 'know new events as they happen if God doesnt change?
And if God does change with humans is God still perfect?
If God cannot see the future even if it is logically impossible to see does it take away Gods omnipotence?