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When was plato alive?
428–423 BC, died 348/347 BC
Just say he was around in the 4th century bc
Where did he live
Athens
What is pederasty?
a socially acknowledged relationship between an older male (the erastes) and a younger male (the eromenos) usually in his teens
ermenos?
“beloved”
often 12-17
erastes?
Older male/lover
often over 30
What is the symposium?
a philosophical dialogue that revolves around a banquet where various guests take turns delivering speeches in praise of Love. Notable guests include socrates and alcibidies
What does Pausanias say about relations
There are two types of love.
pandemian love (common) and uranian love (heavenly)
Common/pendemian love
does not deserve to be praised.
Interested in obtaining physical pleasures, seeks immediate satisfaction of lust
Uranian/Heavenly
only attracted by the male sex
An erastes who is concerned with ‘Heavenly Love’ will not pursue a boy who is too young to make a rational decision about the relationship they are about to enter.
who was at the symposium?
Socrates, the playwright Aristophanes, the poet Agathon the physician Eryximachus, Pausanias, and Phaedrus
who crashes the symposium?
alcibiades
what year did socrates die?
executed in 399 BC
for “corrupting the youth”
what did socrates spend his life doing?
Asked athenians question and answer that would lead to an acceptable definintion of conception
(basically homeless)
who was one of socrates’s pupils?
Plato saurus rex
what did socrates view philosophy as?
The pursuit of definitions
often moral concepts
what is a “form” for Plato
the physical world is not truly "real," but a world of passing shadows, while the true reality consists of abstract, perfect, unchanging, and eternal concepts called "Forms"
platos most important saying? MUST REMEMBER FOR EXAMS
Love is the desire for the perpetual (never-ending) possession of what is good
what is the background of the symposium?
hosted by agathon during the peloponnesian war just before the disastrous sicilian invasion that was preached heavily by alcabidies
what does phaedrus praise love for
the greatest benefits it can bestow on us
has the power to make both the erastes and eromenos morally enhanced
what two places are used as examples for pandemian eros by puasainias?
Sparta-pederasty is accepted by the laws,to straightforward to be uranian
Ionia and persia,condems pederasty,this is due to the oppresive and dictoral natures of these place
what place is praised by pausanias for uranian love?
Athens,eros has a clear and notable purpose to it,subject lovers to a thorough test
who is Aristophanes?
comic playwright (so his speech is amusing)
What is aristophanes myth about
In the past there was three genders,male female and androgynous(intersex)
They were spherical in shape (four legs and hands and two genitals)
Why did the gods (Zeus) punish the original humans? (Aristophanes)
The OG humans were very powerful,fast and strong(due to multiple limbs)
They tried to attack the gods and loose.
What was Zeus’ punishment to the OG humans?
He split them in two to make them weaker
This left them how we look now
As a result of zeus splitting up OG humans they?
They each yearned for their other halfs,they would throw their arms around each other and die because they could not be fully together
Zeus then did what to these OG split in half humans because he felt pity?
He moved their genital to the front (penis) and created the act of sex;
This created babies to combat death of humans and satisfied thier longing for each other
Aristophanes explains homsexuality and hetro how?
As what part of thier other half a human had
for example Lesbians were two women halves
The most desireable one was the male male halve-seen as most manly
Aristophanes overall thinks? THIS IS AN OVERALL RECAP
Love(eros) is the guiding force that leads us to pursue the true nature of humanity which is wholeness
-only thing that makes us truly happy
Phaedrus dialogue by Plato?
Plato argues for the immortality of the human soul and its tripartite
What is the phaedrus analogy?
“In my own analogy a , soul is like an organic whole made up of a charioteer and his team of horses”
White horse in plato’s phaedrus analogy?
represents the spirited part of the soul
-the desire each of us has for glory and honour
the black horse in platos phaedrus analogy?
represents the appetitive part of the human soul
the craving for sensual gratification
how are the black and white horse described?
white horse-clean and goodlooking,”ally of true glory”
black horse-crooked and bloodshot eyes,”scarcely to be controlled
The charioteer in phaedrus analogy?
represents human rationality
has a considerableSo job in controlling the chariot
Platos republic?
Another plato work the features socrates as the main character
Socrates is used to paint the picture of a perfectly just society-Kallipolis
What does socrates say about sex in republic?
that it is the greatest and most frenzied of the pleasure
sex is fundamentally incompatible with any kind of good