Gersten Skibussy GYATT

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  1. True or False פת הבאה בכיסנין is a type of bread.

true

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  1. There is a 3 way debate as to the definition of פת הבאה בכיסנין. Explain each opinion and give an example.

A. pie, baked with another substance

B. cake, change the dough intoa sweet

C. it has crunch, cracker or pretzel

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  1. If one eats a כזית worth of food from any of the above 3 types, a מזונות is made. True or False

true

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  1. If one eats chocolate cake, and it is only one כזית worth, one makes a מזונות because there is no doubt that this is פת הבאה בכיסנין. True or False

False

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  1. What is commonly referred to as Mezonos bread? Why is it called that?

rolls that are made using fruit juice, apple juice or orange juice, and sephardim believe they are mezonot while we believe that its motzia

its named htat because people think its pas haba bekishnin

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  1. Why do most contemporary פוסקים hold that Mezonos bread is really המוציא bread?

They are not as sweet as cake, so they wouldnt be ps habah bkisnin

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  1. Under what circumstance is פת הבאה בכיסנין a המוציא?

You eat the amount that a average person would be satisfied by

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  1. קביעת סעודה is determined by

what makes the average person שובע

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  1. Case - Brad eats 3 NY slices of pizza and is not satisfied. What Bracha should he have made?

Netilat yadayim, hamotzia and bench

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  1. Mitch eats 1/4 slice of pizza with other food and is satisfied. What ברכה ראשונה should be made?What ברכה אחרונה should be made?

Mezonot, al mechiya

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  1. Matt eats one and a half slices of pizza with a nice portion of salmon and a large bowl of soup and is not satisfied. What is the appropriate ברכה ראשונה?

ha motzia

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  1. Bob eats one and a half slices of pizza and is not satisfied. What is the appropriate ברכה ראשונה?

mezonot

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  1. Bob eats one and a half slices of pizza and is satisfied. What is the appropriate ברכה ראשונה?

hamotzia

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  1. Eric sat down to 1.5 slices of pizza and then changed his mind wants 1.5 more. Does he wash? Does he make המוציא? Does he recite ברכת המזון?

No, no, yes

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  1. Eric sat down to 1 slice of pizza and then changed his mind wants 3 more. Does he wash? Does he make המוציא? Does he recite ברכת המזון?

Yes, yes, yes

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  1. פת הבאה בכיסנין eaten for satiation after regular bread does it require a מזונות?

no

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30.פת הבאה בכיסנין eaten for dessert, delight, after regular bread does it require a מזונות?

yes

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  1. Chocolate cake eaten for dessert - does it require a מזונות?

no, Because its not definite that its bava kisnin, we already opinion a says it has to beaked with something else and opinion c says that it must have a crunch, and since we already made a a bracha of hamotzia and we thnk its bread

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Does apple pie need מזונות?

Yes, Apple pie fits into two categories: 1 - baked with another substance, 2 - the crust is sweet. Therefore the custom is to make a mezonot

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Grains

Wheat, barley, rye, oats, and spelt

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Pas haba bkesnin blessing

mezonot, no netliat yadayim, with tht ebracha after it being mechiyah

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If he eats a meal that would make others full

motzia and yadayim

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If he eats a meal that would make him full but not other

mezonot and mechiya

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If he makes mezonot first because he thinks he will eat a little but eats amount that others would see as a meal but isnt satisfied

hamazon

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If eating pas habah bekisnin For desert

mezonot

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For satiation

no

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If its cake and desert

no bracha because we dont know if its pas habah bekisnin

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