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Control over the internal vs. control over the external
Moderate E
Things within our control: Judgements, opinions, choices. We cannot be forced, harmed, or made miserable by others
Outside our control: Bodies, wealth, reputation, other peoples actions. Trying to control these things leads to anxiety and frustration
“It is not things themselves that disturb us, but our judgments about them.”
Desire satisfaction- increasing the numerator vs. decreasing the denominator
Moderate E
Decreasing the denominator - limiting desires to what is within your own control, wanting things to happen as they do
(He takes issue with this) Increasing the numerator - aquiring more money, gaining status/approval, making world conform to you
What is a possibility
Moderate E
Multiple possibilities are possible, we act based on what appears to be appropriate
This may be extreme:
Incomplete info in our own minds
Ex. Class and the toy boat. What happened to the boat is the only thing that could possibly happen
For epictetus, the only real possibilities are how you think, judge, and choose. We can’t control everything else that happens
The bathouse, parking meter, abad call by referee, closed restaurant, etc
Moderate E
Should expect these things to happen, they had to happen, nothing else was possible
The jug
Moderate E
Might be fond of the jug and have desire for it but also need to recognize it as a finite object that could break or get lost
Increased satisfaction and decreased frustration
Moderate E
Ex. If you’re a lawyer appearing in court and you can’t think of the correct objection until much later, you shouldn’t beat yourself up (If option didn’t occur to us then it wasn’t possible, need to get rid of the false belief that it is possible)
-If we’re discombobulated then we can’t get an accurate picture of what is happening)
The importance of goals and desires
Moderate E
Perfectly reasonable to pursue goals, just need to be realistic
If we fail at goals, we can look at them and try not to fail next time
Calm and tranquility
Moderate E
Ex. If a little oil is spilled, realize that sort of thing is bound to happen
Nothing else could happen then what did happen
Invincibility
Moderate E
Improved function - CEOS, athletes, everyday life
Moderate E
Don’t get discombobulated- are able to have a clear mind/picture
Athlete ex. Ref makes a bad call and that'‘s all they can think about for the next plays
Student ex. Does poorly on exam, can be better prepared for the future
Risk-taking
Moderate E
Stoic attitude towards others (insults, et)
Moderate E
-Imagine being insulted by a toddler, wouldn’t be mad
-Now, imagine leaving class and being yelled at and insulted
Should try not to take it personally, as if toddler is the one yelling at you
People can only act on the basis of how things appear to them
Moderate E
Yes
A stoic attitude toward our own strengths and weaknesses
Moderate E
-Need to have realistic expectations
Moderate satisfaction at piecing things together
Moderate E
Approach to social injustice
Moderate E
Can take on addressing social injustice but you need to be realistic
Getting rid of goals, desires, and expectations, except for the desire to understand how things fit together and why they have to happen exactly as they do
Extreme E
yes
No frustration
Extreme E
Since everything can only happen one way, there’s no reason to be upset
Be ok with whatever happens
Extreme E
Yes
Take a third-person perspective on everything
Extreme E
People can only act on the basis of how things appear to them
Extreme E
Yes
Intense satisfaction at piecing things together
Extreme E
Satisfaction doesn’t come from possessions but instead from piecing things together correctly in the mind
-Using reason to know how the world works
-Recognizing what is and is not up to us
-Making accurate judgments of events
Social injustice
Extreme E
Shouldn’t care at all
Things are because thats the only way they can be
No good/bad/right/wrong
Extreme E
yes
Extreme Epictetus vs. moderate Epictetus on the parking meter example
Extreme E
Objections to extreme epictetus
Extreme E
What does it mean for human life to be absurd1
-Human beings have a lot of firmly held beliefs- even though they have little proof
Human life is absurd1 because no one will care about us in a million years
Nagel disagrees with this because in a million years no one will be thinking of us at all
Human life is absurd1 because if is finite in terms of time and space
If living for 70-80 years is meaningless then why would life suddenly have meaning if it went on for eternity
Humans as rational animals or homo sapiens
We believe homo sapiens are more rational than other creatures
Take ourselves to have 100% evidence
Foundational beliefs and our level of confidence in them
We double down on our beliefs with 100% certain despite little evidence for them
Do we have reasons for none of our beliefs according to Nagal
Yes. Nothing has proof that it’s real. We don’t even know if our perceptions are accurate
What is the sense in which human life is absurd according to Nagel
-We’re comical creatures who parade around as if we have proof for our beliefs
-Spend lots of time working out, having a job, talking to people as if we have proof of a deeper meaning
What is the perspective sub specie aeternitatis? What do we notice from this perspective?
Outside perspective
Humans are highly invested in their own pursuits
It’s a way of looking at life from “outside” ourselves, imagining how things would appear from an eternal, detached standpoint.
From this perspective, our daily concerns, projects, and achievements are seen as tiny and fleeting.
Essentially, it’s seeing life the way the universe sees it, without personal bias or attachment.
The belief that our projects and pursuits have value
Like ant hill
We are highly invested in our own projects
External-world skepticism
No proof any external world even exists
Belief in the existence of God vs. the big bang
Nagel no proof for God in the same way that people have no proof of the big bang
Are non-human animals (like birds) absurd2 according to Nagel
No. They act like their lives have meaning but don’t parade around with superiority
the benefits of noticing that we are absurd2
-Be more humble
-Can approach life with irony
Ex. Political argument with friend, can recognize neither of you have proof
-Can be more open
-Can be less upset at the world
How long can we take an outsiders perspective, according to Nagel? How are we supposed to use that perspective as a tool?
Objections to Nagel
-Can only take outside perspective temporarily (eventually slip back into usual mode of thinking)
-Nagel thinks we’ll compromise by taking each others perspective more- irl we don’t tend to do that