Socrates

What does Socrates require before he speaks?

he must be allowed to tell the truth so his words cannot to be compared with the other speeches

What kind of speech does Socratesprovide?

his speech is two dialogues one with Agathon and one with Diotima (his teacher)

Where does Socrates get his account?

From diotima

Know the main idea of the speech and the problem(s) that we discussed.

Eros is the desire for wisdom it is the divine in humanity and leads us to seek beauty itself

What is correct opinion? How is it like Eros?

it is something we correctly believe is true but cannot justify / know like Eros it is between knowledge and ignorance

We considered some of Diotima’s claims about Eros. What were they?

1)is between morta and immortal,knowledge and ignorance 2)is the child of penia(poverty) and Poros(resource) 3) is a philosopher 3) produces and births the beautiful

How is Eros like pregnancy? What types of pregnancy are there?

eros allows mortal to become immortal through body or through soul the types are poetry , law, and great achievement/deeds

What are the forms?

abstract, eternal, and unchanging, ideas, universals the form chair or the form beauty and they are the real essence of thing

How does the “stuff” of the material word differ from the forms?

Changing and imperfect things particulars , he are not the “true” or real essences of the things they are imitations of the forms and we can only have opinion about these things not knowledge

What do the forms have to do with beauty?

Physical beauty is not true beauty, it is merely an imitation of the things we desire to know and this is why Socrates thinks we need to follow steps that lead us away from the material world.#