Lucan quotes/facts

Dinter - authority

2012 - ‘calls the authority of epic into question’

opening line - collective identity. B to V’s A. narratorial presence = canimus

bella plusquam civilia …. populumque potentem

QUestion

quis furor, o cives, quae tanta licentia ferri

IL 1 - H to gods, l to cives. Laocoon’s qs to trojs B2 and Ascanius in B5 - use cives to addres. Eurydice q Orpheus on furor in Georg 4. B7 Q echoed - quis furor, o caeci scelerum.

Joseph - absence of muse meaning for L and genre

2022 - ‘ a declaration of Lucan’s plans to silence and end the genre’

Discuss variations in invoking the muse in other epics/quasi-epics

Lucretius waits till the final book of DRN to invoke the muse but opens invoking Venys

O in Met - doesnt invoke muses expl till final book but does invoke a range of gods.

historical recency makes olympian panoply unsatisfying

Patria at rubicon - adj shared w Hector Aen 2

Maestissimus

Ext simile of Pomp v jc

Pomp = old oak , pondere fixa suo est. rep of umbras

JC to thunderbolt nullaque exire vetante materia. 

Who is the third option for epic hero in the poem

Cato - but B9 snakes - bathos.

Lucan venerated as epiciist

Statius’ Genethliacon in SIlvae - Calliope foretelling L’s ahcievements to surpass V

Fantham - L’s divinity

1992 - ‘nothing to do with justice or providence’

e.g gods pleased by Cato but still let him be defeated. 

Henderson - what L offers. scariest thing is all this suffering for nothing?

1987 - ‘he offers you Death as the cultural wish of humanity

Mutable Rome B7,8,9

BoPhars hic Roma perit 7

8 Pomp Lesbos Cornelia hic mihi Roma fuit 

9 JC Troy ROmanaque Pergama surgent

Henderson 1987, L’s interetxt - fulfils vergilian curse of Dido, anger of Juno, menace of Jugurtha.

‘parasitic’

Opening B2 - indicere bellum.

indixitque nefas

What intertexts does B2 rely on

JC’s accounts of marine siege technology and Pompe’s counter measures in commentarii de Belli Civilii

What does Lucan present as the end goal of civil war in Book 1

Nero