5) Socrates (his refutation of Thrasymachus)

Band of thieves example

even within a band of thieves, there is justice

Each craft brings its own beneft

the point of a craft is to benefit others; the reverse: a craft is done for beneficiaries outside of the craft; (ex: lawyers benefit clients, doctors benefit patients)

Good rulers do not rule to benefit themselves …

but in order to practice the craft of good leadership; rulers shouldn’t rule for the power, but to benefit the people

Socrates says that good rulers are the ones who do not want to rule at all

in a good city, the citizens fight in order not to rule

Socrates says a just person will live well because he is living accordingly to the virtue of the soul

when your soul is order, you automatically do the right thing