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Central Question in Meno by Plato
Is knowledge really better than correct belief?
Example in Meno
The Road to Larissa
The Road to Larissa & Concern
One person has heard about the road to Larissa (correct belief) and another has seen and traveled it themselves
Concern: Correct belief seems to be perfectly adequate in knowing
Socratesâs Point in Meno
Missing ingredient for knowledge is the CAUSE/rational account/logos. Cause fastens true belief so it doesnât run away
Analogy: statue of Daedalus so lifelike it has to be tied down so it doesnât run away
Knowledge definition in Meno
True belief with a cause/rational account
Knowledge better than mere true belief b/c tied down & stable
Why is seeing the Road to Larissa = having a rational account of it?
You have:
explanation
reason to know
internally accessible proof (proved to yourself)
canât be convinced otherwise
Problem in Theaetetus by Meno
Supposing Knowledge is true belief with logos (definition, reason, rational account)
What is the logos that will make true belief knowledge?
What sorts of things can you have knowledge of according to Socrates? Propositions? Objects? Particulars? Universals?
Proposition: the cat is on the mat
Object: a cat
Particular: this cat
General: cathood
Particular things Socrates says we can have knowledge of
A wagon
âTheaetetusâ spelled
Elements - word for this Greek is stoicheion (letter)
Sun
Theaetetus as person
Dream Theory
Complex can be broken down into simples, but we donât know what a simple is exactly
What there is: complexes and simples
Logos: An account of a complex that analyzes it into its simple components
Knowledge: Knowledge of X is true belief about X with a logos that analyzes X into its simple components (knowledge means being able to break it down)
Notable consequence: simples unknowable
Problem 1 (assuming complexes are knowable
Complex is either:
a) no more than its elements â you canât know a complex without also knowing its elements â but itâs not possible to know elements, since they are simple â complexes unknowable (complexes ARE simple and canât be broken down)
b) something over and above its elements â complexes do not have elements as parts â complexes ARE simple â complexes unknowable
So, either way, complexes are unknowable
Further Possibilities For Logos
1) Manifesting in Speech (âby voice with verbs & nounâ)
2) Enumeration of the Elements (âreach the whole by enumerating elementsâ
Ex: Enumerating the 100 planks that make up a wagon (analogous to the letters of a name) rather than saying a wagon is made up of wheels, axle, body, rims, yoke (analogous to syllables of name). Letters more fundamental elements than syllables.
3) Distinguishing Mark (âtelling mark or sign of difference distinguishing thing in question from all othersâ)
Ex: âsun is the brightest of the heavenly bodies which revolve around the earthâ