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lecture 9 “Into the Spider-Verse”

Slide 2 REVIEW “Religion and Material Culture”

Material dimension, what people like, associate meaning to product or make own stuff

Not static objects, play with or make us happy or collect, money

Value system, meaningful, nostalgia, valuable, function, relation to other objects

Slide 3 REVIEW What is “Material Culture”?

Putting characters on products

Slide 4 review

Sacred product, religion in pop culture

Slide 5 David Chidester’s Authentic Fakes (2005)

coke

Slide 6 Chidester’s “functional definition of religion”

Religion: way of being human in human place

Meet companies standards to slap logo on

Authentic fake? Just put label or real, function, utility

Don’t need batman toothbrush to brush teeth but like it

Like character

Slide 7 Cosplay and Conventions

Engage, embody

Slide 8 Toys and Material Culture

Be Real life/live action toys

Signal belonging to community

Toys beyond ordinary, valuable

Slide 9 Chidester on “Religion”

Transcendent, ultimate, sacred, doesn’t need to be rigid

Indicate stuff is important to us, ideas, values

Slide 10 Anthropologist Clifford Geertz’s  Definition of Religion

No one size fits all definition, need weight, functional, analysis, compare

  1. Symbols

  2. Moods

  3. Existence

  4. Fact

  5. realistic

Slide 11 Examining Marvel’s Brand

Fetish, mood and motivation

Slide 12 Examining DC’s Brand

Dc more gray, consequential?

Slide 13 Commodity Fetishism

Spiderman young like diapers

Different ages/audiences different fetishes? Happy meal

Commodity fetishism, something cool, wanna have, not generic/store brand

Slide 14 Is lucky hat or shirt an example of a fetish?

Own meaning to stuff relationship, favourite stuff, why, cool, subjective

Slide 15 Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (2018)

Real spiderman?

Authoritative version of text, real or not, approved?

Best stuff, how to engage, golden age of comics, different versions

real , fake, less? Updated version for different time, star wars prequels

Slide 16 The Amazing Spider-Man

Stan lee

Spiderman different image, younger relate

Canon in 1960s and build

Slide 17 Animating the Amazing SpiderMan

Voice act, bring to life, change actors, audience closer?

Slide 18 Different Animation Styles, Different Universes 

Alternate storylines in same world, 4th wall

One and only? Lonely to be hero, secret identity, keep from close people

Slide 19 Choosing to be the hero

Hard to grow up, don’t wanna do what told to do, mistrust

Wear symbol and logo, own control, choose how to control yourself

Slide 20 “Can I return it, if it doesn’t fit?”

React to death, stan lea cameo

Creator meet created, heartfelt, nod

It always fits in, follow through actions, path dependency

Slide 21 Peter Parker’s Death

Consequences, spider man can die, human, hero or villain

Slide 22 The One and Only Spider-Man?

Maybe more, intros, pick up different versions

Slide 23 My name is Peter B. Parker 

Washed up, alpha and beta? Want beta, maybe no new version

Slide 24 “You’re like me!” Finding a mentor

Recognition, let go, solitary, wouldn't normally encounter

Slide 25 Learning the Ropes

Webs, not bound, different rules than humans, freedom/liberation

Slide 26 “Hello My Name Is…

Universe populated, commonality becomes community

Want understanding, desired, understood, hear

Slide 27 Miles Morales has invisibility and electric shock, in addition to web-slinging and “spidey senses” 

Lenses change, psychological, ethics other stuff, community

Good or bad, always superlatives?

Slide 28 Faith in Oneself

Show something’s happening, out of time, aware of smt, like mystical

Spidey senses tingle, fear and danger, villain or bad luck

Slide 29 Peter B. Parker’s Fears of Inadequacy 

Think can’t do it, no longer, divorced

Slide 30 Getting a little help from your friends

Community, friendship, duty to friendship, getting together

Better collective than individual, collective effervescence-right place right time, magic

Slide 31 Miles’ Leap of Faith

Feel better, take leap of faith, higher power/certainty

Miles leap to believe in himself

Do what others can’t

Slide 32 The Villain’s Backstory

Steal lost family from other universe, strife

Slide 33 I’m Spider-Man (and I’m not the only one…)

What do we wanna be, not alone 

Clashing universe aesthetics/animation and stuff

Chaos is messy style feel more jarring, clashing

Class opinion

Slide 34 What’s a Superhero?

Peter b wants to save, self sacrifice

Homage to people from before

Awards, good animation

superhero does helps cus right, open ended definition, anyone can be

Fill void of possibility

Slide 35 Acknowledging those that came before us

Thank stan lee, acknowledge humanity, other people, cameos

Pass the torch, not only one interested

Slide 36 Authenticity? Authentic Fakes?

Who’s real spiderman, not only one, room for colliding viewpoints

Aunt may helps

Slide 37 Experimenting with Animation 

Where are we in action, lots happening

Slide 38 Experimenting with Animation Styles in Into the Spider-Verse

Push boundaries, go too far? Uncomfortable with clashing or cool

Accessibility, flashes, epilepsy

How express ourselves

Look for next big thing

Slide 39 This Week’s Assigned Reading

Humanness of spiderman, history, backstories

Why created, younger, less powerful, not sidekick, own person, flawed, dismissed

Just a kid

Superhuman vs human, merge what’s possible

Human but does the right thing, 

community

Lecture 10: Self and Other” or “Getting By With A Little Help From Your Friends

Slide 2 marvel studio’s black panther (2018)

Black panther star of show, black director

Resources for own safety and people

Present themselves in false light, thought poor farmers but rich

Assume colonized so poor

Keep hidden so not exploited, no war/violence

Slide 3 african diaspora and afrofuturism in film

Why interesting in 2016 

why does comic character spark imagination

Real black panthers-civil rights

Diaspora-dispersed, try to come back into a community

Imagine and feeling reunited

Afrofuturism-

  • themes of no apartheid, 

  • living better off from tech advancements, 

  • Sci-fi

  • No problems of today

Slide 4

Wakanda-

  • unconquered, 

  • kept from the world, 

  • no one knows how advanced, 

  • low profile

  • Spies but don’t reveal hand

Slide 5 T’Challa returns to his homeland after the death of his father, King T’Chaka

Crisis of succession

Tchala

Step into role cus death


Slide 6 If T’Challa’s claim is recognized, he will become King of Wakanda and receive the power of the Black Panther

T'challa step into father’s shoes

Capable individual

Seen as legitimate?

Rituals

Return to be judged, fill the role of king, expected

Doubt, other contenders

Slide 7 but others will rise to challenge him for that role

Contrasting views 

Killmonger wants to open up

Two views of utopia

Killmonger grew up outside

T'challa wants to maintain father’s status quo, stay closed

Killmonger says wakandans are not to be messed with

Cousin not same life, has claim to same resources

Slide 8 stories of promised kings: considering ethiopia for the rastafari

Descendents of slaves-unbroken tradition?

Ethiopia

Slide 9 the rastafari movement

Marcus Garvey tells african people to take pride even if brought to jamaica and not connected

Look for unconquered king-prophecy

Worthy of self governance, african king

Slide 10 Ras Tafari Makonnen (1891-1975)

See unconquered place

Expect for king, look for promised person, like jesus, christian colonized context

Black messiah

Slide 11 Haile Selassie I Emperor of Ethiopia (1930-1974)

Haile selassie (formerly Ras Tafari Makonnen) crowned emperor of ethiopia

Prophesied king from unconquered nation (ethiopia)

Slide 12 the rastafari movement in jamaica

Greater than human

Invite to visit

Slide 13 rastafari worldview

New idea, ethiopia is promised land

Powerful god, like jesus for christians

Slide 14 T’Challa’s story inspires much like the story of Haile Selassie

T'challa like haile selassie

Black superhero own movie-not side character

THE black panther movie-magnum

Emphasise hebrew not christian bible

Slide 15 African Diaspora and Afrofuturism

Fictitious, unconquered land

Slide 16 Reactions to the Release of Black Panther in 2018

Snoopdog buys out theaters to inspire young black children

Rolemodel-

  • not enough for perfect figure, 

  • needs to be human, 

  • aspiration, 

  • connection

 Hope, community

Slide 17 In America, Members of Black Churches Organized Screenings of Black Panther

Church goes to watch movie

How important?

Transcendence, sacred, ultimate

Collective effervescence, hope, joy, already established religious community

Pop culture in religion/ vice versa

Slide 18 Godlike Superheroes?

Gods?, too big to be mere mortals? Deities? Mythic?

Difference between god and human, where does superhero/demi-god fall, mutant

Retelling old mythologies?

Bast, indian haruman figure? appropriation?

Slide 19 yoruba religious traditions

Real world inspo

Orishas-lower gods, more able to engage with humans, intimately 

Humans take attributes and become gods through connection

Black panther taking on previous black panther powers


Slide 20 yoruba african orishas

Inspo from orishas

Real human models posing as and depicting gods

Subconscious images, inspiring

Small and big screens: art gallery and movie

Political and social

How people choose to go to movies?

Barbie phenomenon-dressing in pink, going with friends

Play with religious imagery

Slide 21 Assigned Reading

Who’s main figure

Motivated by black panther

Slide 22 René Girard (1923-2015)

One boy looks at giraffe if wanna play, other boy comes and sees and wants it

1st doesn’t wanna give cus 2nd one wants, thinks there’s value/desire

Be good, virtuous if act like jesus

Slide 23 W. E. B. Du Bois (ca.1946)

Systems of power, self preservation

Dual perspective, see through other’s pov

Aware of power dynamics, social institutions

But still human

Slide 2 review

Superhero merch/objects and stuff, private collection or show-off, costumes/cosplay

Virtue signalling

Ninian smart 7 dimensions of religion

  • Practical and ritual

  • Experiential and emotional-music

  • Narrative and mythic-

  • Doctrinal and philosophical

  • Ethical and legal

  • Social and institutional

  • Material-audience themselves, making stuff to consume

Slide 3 review Superheroes and Villains in Film

How heroes are presented against each other, thor and loki siblings, valkyrie an asgard

Slide 4 review “That’s what heroes do...”

What heroes and villains make us think about, want to be hero, how

Humans interpret stuff, how act

Slide 5 REVIEW Ethical Considerations “What Makes Someone a Villain?

Is joker villain

Slide 6 “Religion” and “Material Culture”

Material grounds in current time, references, embody as human, 

perceive objects: colours, aesthetics, why like/buy

Slide 7 Examples of Material Culture

Halloween costumes as heroes, presentation of character, 

Not necessarily a mask but highlight texture and colour, given costume

Props like fake weapons, not normal everyday stuff, let kids have it normally to play

Transgress social norms, playing, expressing themselves in different roles

Slide 8 What does it mean to “play the hero” or “play the villain”?

Maybe don’t want to play villain, not supporting role, want to be main hero, change narrative, villain save the day, against canon, batman and joker together

Explore stuff outside norms, allowed to be aggressive and domineering

Can be actors and make stuff, extending child’s playing

Halloween wear what you want, girl’s only chance to be slutty without being judged

Alternate self, many to choose from, spirit halloween

Slide 9 costumes

Cosplayers do it year-round, make themselves maybe

Slide 10 Cosplay and Conventions

Extend childhood play, performative art, take time to perfect details

Allusion or make real, not real materials like metal, adamantium doesn’t exist

Different budgets, still achieve good illusion, prosthetics, what’s fake or authentic

Slide 11 Toys and Material Culture

Why like toys, ritual-act of play, spontaneous or script, get ready to con or party

Buy stuff

Slide 12 What is “Material Culture”?

Brand partnerships, coke, mcdonalds, regulated, like food and kinder eggs, 

maybe disappear, limited edition, 

like religion/mythical experience, 3. Transiency-temporary

Slide 13 Assigned Reading

Try to define religion, cross-promote

Slide 14 David Chidester’s Authentic Fakes (2005)

Oxymoron? What’s valuable, timing of produce, who determines what’s religion 

Slide 15 Chidester’s “functional definition of religion”

Way of being human in human place, looked in unexpected places

Slide 16 Chidester on “Religion”

Religious way of being human, 

be transcendent-above ordinary

Sacred-apart from ordinary, mcdonalds coffee vs espresso, tv dinner vs thanksgiving

Ultimate-final, unavoidable limit of ordinary concerns, death

Slide 17 Chidester’s Examples of Religion in America

Coke, baseball, rock’n roll

Don’t need coke, no nutrients, some people need it like coffee

Promote is as needed during a break, has a fizz, sensory stimulation, thirsty, sweaty celebs, ritual to share

Slide 18 Anthropologist Clifford Geertz’s Definition of Religion

  1. Symbols

  2. Make moods and motivations

  3. Make order of existence

  4. Make like facts

  5. Moods and motivations seem uniquely realistic

Subconscious level

Slide 19 Authentic? or Fake Religion?

Holy order of cheeseburger, taken down

Coke and cheeseburger, combo

Started as satire, make fake religion as protest

Religious none’s still means you practice religion, like christmas or meditation/yoga etc

  • With family but not in organized social institution

Real religion? 

Slide 20 Authentic? or Fake Religion? Contd

Flying spaghetti monster-religious parody, pastafarianism, colanders on head, hijab

Slide 21 What is a “brand”?

Intended audience, embody ideas or what consumers admire or want to be, costumes

Fanatics, only wear a brand, only drink coke, fast fashion and ethic, who to support

Identity brands: help consumers assert identity or who they are, 

Iconic brands: contribute to the identify of a whole community

Slide 22 Examining Marvel’s Brand

Avengers movie, gender roles, off-brand stuff, 

product placement, real or not, wayne enterprises or real brands, create realism

Slide 23 Licensed Products from Marvel

Lego stuff

Slide 24 Examining DC’s Brand

Impression of stuff, products with superheroes to be chosen by children

Marvel lets images be everywhere, disposable objects, diapers? Kleenex?

Team Thinks where images are, no cigarettes etc, taboo or not

Slide 25 Commodity Fetishism

Sexual proclivity, over-fixation, “excited”

Want to consume products, iphones, cocke, type of lifestyle, identity or iconic brands

Beep at same type of car

Object has supernatural powers

Slide 26 Is a lucky hat or shirt an example of a fetish?

Same ritual, minimize risk of changing variables, 

associate supernatural stuff with objects

Slide 27 Interacting with Objects

Actor-network theory (ant)

Objects influence humans, everything in relationships, same level

No external forces, only network, not only humans who influence

Slide 28 “Religion” and “Ritual”

rituals

Slide 29 recommended reading

Ronald L. Grimes’ article on “Ritual” in Material Religion: The Journal of Objects, Art and Belief vol. 7, iss.1 (2011), https://doi.org/10.2752/175183411X12968355482097 Ron Grimes


Pass around wooden egg, like talking stick, develop relationship, got power

Didn’t want to throw out the egg at the end of class, extraordinary, found in attic

Students imbued it with value

Slide 30 ​​Tutorial 3 Today (November 5)

Together with your TA, you will consider an example of material culture associated with the Marvel or DC brand

1. How is this object meant to be used?

2. Who might be interested in purchasing this product?

3. Is it appropriate to apply the term “fetish” to this product?

4. Is this an example of “Popular Culture” (produced by the people)?

5. Who might this object be understood an example of an “identity brand”? or “iconic brand”?Slide 2 Thor: Ragnarok (2017) “Old Gods, New Myths”

Self-identify as god, not lord, like dr strange not mr strange, positions of prestige and power

Source materials that inspire, myths, what’s canon, can’t alter

Slide 3 REVIEW Captain Marvel (2019) “Bad Girl” to “Superheroine”?

Colonialism, defender of earth

Add to MCU canon, story arc, infinity saga,

intertextuality, materials interact

  • Characters in own world and narrative

  • Alliance and conflicts, blurry good and bad, communities/nationalities

  • Meant to manipulate? Fuzzy memories, limit info, harness to weapon

  • Need more weapons to defend?-avengers initiative to protect, need heroes

Slide 4 Captain Danvers/Captain Marvel

Feminine archetypes, liability? No solo films

Captain marvel in touch with emotions, ethical

Slide 5 Defender of Earth and the Skrull

Many films/characters, characters retire for new ones, when too many, what’s justice

Slide 6 The Skrull in Search of Homeland

Skrulls look frightening/non-human, otherness, play up few features, potential enemy

Differentiate between enemy and ally

Slide 7 Review Post-9/11 Cinema and the Marvel Cinematic Universe

American identity, always good, 

others bad, conceptualizing terrorism, infiltrate, lizards/reptilian, secret lizards

False idea, jude law plays good people

Slide 8 Enemy Invasions?

Soldier’s role

Slide 9 Ethics of Emmanuel Levinas 

lithuanian philosopher in jail during WWII

  • Ethical duty/imperative for someone different

  • Don’t harm Others when you see their face, doesn’t need to be like you

  • want to be good to people like us, try harder to identify with Others

  • Ontological

  • When you see face, easy to recognize as individual

  • When covered, shadow, or less-than human, easier to do harm, not person

  • Who has right to exist

Slide 10 This Week Thor: Ragnarok (2017)

Not earth, asgard, alien civilization, powerful, like gods

Mythical source material

Preconceived notions of Thor, succession

Slide 11 New Text for Consideration

Theology and the Marvel Universe

Slide 12 Assigned Reading

What’s myth, narrative archetypes and tropes

Myth in religion: not false story, important, resonate with culture

  • Some constant

  • Timeless, human concerns-old way, primordial way

  • Has individual creativity in retelling, what’s appropriate or resonates


Copyright to heroes, money to produce, original creativity, break 4th wall, memes

Hero talking to you in movies, want to resonate, solidify memes/internet culture, trope

Fit into culture

Slide 13 “Religion” and “Myth”

Narrative or mythic dimension, identity, shared past/community

Slide 14 Mythic Reinvention in Wonder Woman (2017)?

Diana prince, related to artemis/roman/greek myths, mix greek and roman

Mix troy and aeneid, no difference to audience, all ancient the same

Gods are supernatural, maybe mistake aliens for gods-scifi/fantasy, magic or god

Bridge between other/ancient to our world, suspension of disbelief

Slide 15 Ancient Archetypes and Old Gods

Mix contemporary with ancient, familiar/recognizable

Slide 16 Recommended Reading

Old gods and film, different interpretations, something new but packaged familiarly

Slide 17 This Week: Thor: Ragnarok (2017)

popular

Slide 18 Thor’s Films in the Marvel Cinematic Universe

In thor universe, character development

  • How he understands, where he comes from, with avengers

Thor’s role, prophecy/vision/dreams, looming threat, ragnarok/doom, mythic theme

Duty, right ruler, hammer as source of power

Slide 19 Thor: Ragnarok (2017) Directed by Taika Waititi

Comedic and light hearted, korg

Slide 20 Asgard, an Ancient Alien Civilization

Larger than life kingdoms, myth, idealized, paradise, peace, no crisis

Untouched heaven, outside of mundanity

Slide 21 Odin, The All Father

Strong patriarchal figure, armoured, weapons, peaceful but can squash problems

facade

Slide 22 Sons of Odin

succession crisis, 

Slide 23 Brothers Thor and Loki

away from asgard on earth, Odin dies, doesn't want to live, 

Slide 24 Ragnarok: Prophecy of the Fall of Asgard

Gonna end world, apocalyptic, prophecies in myths, world start and end

Norse characters, wrong roles, no hulk etc

Slide 25 ragnarok:

Maybe try to stop as hero, save the day, “that’s what heroes do”, what do they do?

Be strategic, new allies

Slide 26 Odin Chooses to Leave the World

Succession, leader gives up, go elsewhere

Slide 27 Hela Goddess of Death

Hela is coming after odin dies, fight valkyrie, only 1 survivor, power from asgard like thor, civil war, usurp authority

Slide 28 Asgard’s Forgotten History

Not all good, golden, result from war,

Hela mighty, goddess of death

Slide 29 Hela, First Born of Odin Takes the Throne of Asgard

Bad mood in kingdom, hela becomes absolute monarch, execute

Slide 30 Thor’s Hair is Cut

Thor and loki new world sakaar, loki gain favor with magic, thro with strength

Thor not champion, just contender, no identity, just lord of thunder

Slide 31 Sampson, Hero of the Hebrew Bible (Judges 13-16)

Cut hair, lose identity, like samson, very strong but can’t cut hair-achilles heel

Not as strong as they think, vulnerable, be careful

Slide 32 Cameo by Marvel Creator, Stan Lee

Hommage, respect to creator, source of material, he can take part

He cuts hair, control character like writing him

Slide 33 Thor Discovers A Missing Ally: Dr. Bruce Banner/Hulk

Storytelling, thor sad, different light,

Pass the torch of source material from stan lee to MCU

Thought he’d be friends with hulk but not remembered

Slide 34 Who’s the Strongest Avenger?

Could’ve won if not restrained

Slide 35 Finding a way back to Asgard and Earth

Stony thinks hulk is strongest, thor is butthurt, needs to be believed as strongest, identity

Thor’s point break not quarterback

Slide 36 New Ally? Valkyrie?

Doesn’t recognize asgard, doesn't want to go back

Slide 37 Working Together

Asgard not saveable

Slide 38 To Destroy Hela, Asgard Must Be Destroyed…

Thor tells loki to start ragnarok to destroy asgard so hela has no power

Slide 39 “Are you Thor the God of Hammers?”

Remember identity not tool, thunder not hammer

Slide 40 “Asgard’s not a place. It’s a people.”

Resists, no final battle, lets ragnarok go, keep what matters, the people

Thor not real throne but on spaceship’

Reimagine prophecy and fate, flexibility between roles assigned

Slide 41 “That’s what heroes do…”

Shame valkyrie from running away, don’t rebel in sakaar, stand up and fight

Heroes should fight to stop ragnarok but thor abstains instead, vulnerable and clever

Utilitarianism, ethics

Looks like odin, patch on eye, rule with sacrifice, less hubris, Still hero if run away?

People in diaspora, maintain identity and community as refugees, 

  • No access to history and geography

  • Lose place, lose self?

Slide 42 For Next Time… “Religion” and “Material Culture”

Ritual: throne, coronation, scene in front of people, acknowledges as leader, don’t need hymns, oils, etc, different rituals

Material culture everywhere

Slide 43 Material Culture

Maybe toy, make them interact, in context, assign value

ritual/narrative creativity, make own stories, memories, and stuff

Objects in physical world, still engage with stories

Slide 44 Examples of Material Culture

Ritual: put yourself in action

Dress up, physically, feel powerful, try on different persona

Excuse to engage physically, fight, mimicry, liberating, aspirational, imagination

Dramaturgy-roles, parts, actors, scripts, etc

Knock offs, bound in brands, fetishize, desirable, self-identify, collect, obsession

Express ourselves through collection and clothes


Intrinsic and extrinsic value, sentimental, memory, nostalgia, childhood with objects

promote/restrain, different kind of interpretations

Slide 2 Captain Marvel (2019)

Trauma, reevaluate role, identity narrative, like dr. strange and surgeon to wizard

Slide 3 REVIEW Dr. Strange and the Marvel Cinematic Universe

Trauma from hands, how memory loss lets character continue

Reigned in with devices for own good, not dangerous, access to power

Earn power/gift? Not what appears to be

Slide 4 Critiquing Presentations “East” and “West” and “Magic”

Systems of viewing world, east and west outdated but orients discussion in universe

Strange looks for answer in east, bruce wayne outside gotham

Mystical with east, medicine and science with west, eurocentric

No knowledge forbidden, only practices

Ancient one is hypocrite

Slide 5 Strange’s Bandaged Hands Turning the Prayer Wheels

How to orient with powerful sources, strange has superficial wheels, prayer wheels

Not processing, not saying mantra, stumbling through ignorance

Slide 6 Separating Body from Spirit

What’s real/reliable, what exists, body or spirit?

Slide 7 REVIEW Metaphysics

Strange shifts between worldviews

Substance-no change

Process-change

Materialism-only physical matter, what strange thought

Idealism-only sprit, lsd

Dualism-matter and spirit, final, astral

Metaphysics to explain worldviews

Slide 8 REVIEW On “Religion” and Emotion

No definition of religion but has aspects, ninian smart’s 7 dimensions

Practical, emotional, narrative, philosophical, ethical, institutional, material

Who’se representing, aesthetics, “sexy” superheros for halloween

Slide 9 This Week’s Discussion Captain Marvel (2019) “Bad Girl” to “Superheroine”?

First female superhero solo film in mcu, wonder woman 1st overall

How is feminism presented, fem fatale? Surviving horror movies?

Good or bad in action?

Slide 10 Set in the year 1995… “Nostalgia” and “Mistaken Memory”

Before main mcu and avengers

canon=accepted stuff for rest of story, stan lee 60s stuff, more weight and authority

Stan lee cameos! Authority dies, how to continue canon, stan lee death

How to present characters correctly, sacred/important, explain differences


Nostalgia and crash in blockbuster, when first encountered comics when young

Indicate different/past world, cus blockbuster obsolete, different tech and elements

What was past like? Who started avengers, heroes not weapons, who to call


Incomplete past, limited/mistaken memory and nostalgia, memory of real world

Believe viewpoints

Slide 11 “Vers of the Kree Starforce” “Is this C-53?”

Not expected captain marvel, different suit colour, green not blue and red from poster

Slide 12 Final Heroic Form

How get to final form, what evolution

Slide 13 Change and Metamorphosis

Change and rites of passage, what they lose, heal and search for answers

Come out on other side changed

in-between/liminal period, beginning, middle, and end

Slide 14 REVIEW Ritual Theory and Rites of Passage

Arnold van gennep, separation, liminality, incorporation, change stages

Slide 15 REVIEW Ritual Theory and Rites of Passage contd

Victor turner, liminal between before and after, what believe 

Slide 16 Victor Turner’s “Liminal Stage”

Role of emotion

Slide 17 Considering the edited volume Marveling Religion (2022)

Slide 18 Assigned Reading

Jordan mcdowell, how engage with superheroes, not just entertainment

Critically engage and critique, why and what’s pop culture, what to do with trends

Fine art only for elite in middle ages, leisure time and money to view and collect

Engage with art, what’s valuable, rah rah nationalism

Slide 19 Ace Pilot to Planetary Defender

Pilot Get power from alien scientist

Slide 20 Defender of Earth (C-53) and the Skrull

What’s human, only captain marvel defend earth, ronan come back for her

Slide 21 Dr. Wendy Lawson/Mar-Vell

War going on, what’s lawson/var vell doing

Slide 22 Mar-Vell/Captain Marvel

recast/reenvision from captain marvel, gender switch

Slide 23 Captain Marvel in the Comic Series

Man vs woman in power on screen, maybe feminist stance, 

strong powerful woman=palatable for masses and fandoms

Slide 24 Yon-Rogg, Leader of the Kree Starforce

Jude law plays romantic leads, casting decisions, 

  • Bad not really bad, good not really good

Slide 25 “Nothing is more dangerous to a warrior than emotion”

Twist, what to believe, who/what am i, loss of identity, existential, liminal stage

Jude law wants to harness power, “gifted” power but really from lawson, inherited

Is emotion a problem in action, life and death

Slide 26 Enemy Invasions?

In tech, green

Slide 27 The Skrull Threat

Skrull also green, menacing, tech, preparing for mission to find vers and tesseract

Become surfers, cold war enemies look just like you

Slide 28 A New Ally? Nick Fury of S.H.I.E.L.D.

Vers blends into shield, who to trust, how much to trust, 

mutually exploit for what you want, allies, start of friendship

Slide 29 “You are Carol Danvers”

Doesn’t know who she is, rambeau’s daughter choose USA colours for suit

Signalling previous films, top gun maverick, cat is goose like copilot from film

macho

Slide 30 Get Up!

Flashbacks to stay/fall down, crash go kart, pushed, admit defeat, but get up

Slide 31 Bruce Wayne Batman Begins

Fall to learn to pick ourselves up advice from father, when fall down hole

Why bad things happen to good people, meaning of pain

Experience but not end of story, persistence, no quitting

Slide 32 Integration of Identities: Wearing Pilot’s Jacket Over Modified Starforce Suit

Not fully in cree suit, jacket associated with past as pilot

Identity combined in new way, inherit past with suit and jacked,

Slide 33 “I have nothing to prove to you.”

Yon-rogg wants man to man, no powers but cause he’s weak, baiting, doesn’t accept

Can’t be manipulated anymore, doesn’t need to prove with just aggression

Rising above, stepping out of abuse/exploitation

Slide 34 “We need to find more...heroes”

External threats, why fury makes avengers, 

need to identify, need more heroes not weapons,

Heroes real people not weapons, choose when to act, keep humanity


Don’t hurt same, hurt others cus don’t understand, different

  • Ontology-duty to do no harm


Skrulls look menacing and green, extraterrestrial, “threat and terrorist”

Then danvers sees humanity like children and wife

What counts as innocent or victim, post 9/11, bogeyman or terror

Responsibilities of engaging, nations and institutions, duty with power to act

Slide 35 The Marvels (2023)

Kamala khan, ms marvel, young person, less responsibilities

Opposite of captain marvel, 

young=not yet, fill role, role model

Monica as scientist thrust into role not ready for

Confront role to play, reliance on themselves and others, switching bodies? flopped

Slide 36 Recommended Reading

Different ways feminine characters communicate ideal femininity

  • Capabilities and expectations

  • Different from men

Slide 37 Gomora (Guardians of the Galaxy 2014)

Less threatening when switching sides, more feminine, less capable

Slide 38 Natasha Romanov/Black Widow Avengers

Spy using sex appeal, many languages, intellectual, 

Picks up slack when fury gone from snap, leadership

Is less bad less interesting? Vanilla good guys

Slide 39 Wanda Maximoff/Scarlet Witch

Vision dies, no romantic partner, emotional wellbeing not greater good, 

bad to good to bad, switch between hero and villain, masculine and feminine

Femininity presented or negated

Slide 40 Hope van Dyne/The Wasp

Shorter hair, dynamic duo/partnership between sexes

Feminine on own or supporting

Slide 41 Femininity as Liability?

Stand alone without femininity as bad?

Gamora less potent when good, softer

Danvers Overcome hurdles, embrace emotions, feels, was discouraged

If sympathize, less useful

Less sexualised costume, armour not skimpy

No body exposed but vulnerability exposed, happy medium?

Grow into hero?

Slide 42 What About Wonder Woman (2017)

Powerful hero, before captain marvel, back to past device, immortal like danvers

Godlike, so god that less than human, less sympathetic, can’t relate

More mythic than human, mythic elements, amazons

Slide 43 Considering DC Superheroine in the Justice Leagues

How myth shows up in real life, out of time/place, still potent?

Still dodge bullets even if different tech

Slide 44 Ancient Archetypes and Old Gods

Trained when young montage, archetypes, like gods, not part of our world

Not real models or thought experiments, what if, fantasy not just scifi

Slide 45 Inserting Superheroes into Modern Warfare

Continuous force, not modern but wwi, timeless human rights

Different armour

Slide 46 Next Week Thor: Ragnarok (2017)

What’s god vs human, thor’s role, gender of heros and villains, family dynamics

Brother like lokiSlide 2 review Batman’sVillains in the Spotlight

Wanted to be heroes, apply ethics to life

Villains are cautionary tales, against norms, maybe like anti heroes, blurry

Slide 3 review The Joker As Main Villain of The Dark Knight

Heath ledger joker-nietzschean, no good or evil, in between, trolley problem, still ethical?, provoke, turn ethics on its head

Slide 4 review arthur fleck villain or antihero?

Joaquin phoenix- failed performer, world is bad, lash out, teaching moments, different gotham, from below not above

Slide 5 put on a happy face?

Pretend till you are, joker isn’t happy

Slide 6 forcing the facade

Tries too hard, overshoots, insecure, poor, needs safe space, obnoxious, people afraid,

too much or not enough, don’t meet the marks, cracks, weird laugh

Slide 7 REVIEW “Comedy and Ethics are Subjective”

Pretends to obey ethics, deviate Systems decides, joker hates world cus it decides

Slide 8 REVIEW Which of These Would be Arthur Fleck’s Ethical Position?

relativism=up to you subjective like joker

Absolutism-black or white

skepticism=none, grey

Slide 9 REVIEW Evoking Emotion

Soundtrack: dark knight hanz zimmer or superman or nanananana batman!

Humans are actors in life, project actions

Narrative possibilities black panther afro-futurism

Slide 10 REVIEW On “Religion” and Emotion

No definition of religion

Aspects of religion: art, narratives, emotional (deep, what’s human?) ritual, philosophical, ethical, social, material

Slide 11 REVIEW “Characteristic Emotional Experiences” and the Psychology of Religion”

Willian james:religion is overwhelmed by smt, can’t understand, emotional

Slide 12 this week

Metaphysics, switch paths, psychedelics, multiverse

Slide 13 doctor strange (2016)

Part of mcu, big and strong personalities, fictitious

Slide 14 As a “Master of Black Magic” in Strange Tales #110 (July 1963)

Counter cultures in 60s, black magic, civil rights

Slide 15 “The Origin of Doctor Strange” in Strange Tales #115 (December 1963)

Origin after introduction 

60s america magic vs. religion

Slide 16 Doctor Strange #1 (June 1968) first solo series featuring a story by Roy Thomas

Wizard or sorcerer

Slide 17 Marvel’s Cinematic Universe

In 2016, other heroes, stand out

Slide 18 Martial Arts and Mysterious Powers?

Casting, not bulky, intellectual

Slide 19 Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness (2022)

In 2016, sequel later

Slide 20 Dr. Stephen Strange Neurosurgeon

Multitasking, smart like iron man, ego

Slide 21 The Doctor Becomes the Patient

Speeds while raining, crash, wanted best patient, downfall was ego, trauma from crushed hands like ego

Who am i if not what i do, surgeon no hands

Slide 22 Learning of a Miraculous Recovery

Spiral for answers, miraculous/unexplainable, grabs onto healing possibility

Slide 23 Seek out Kamar-Taj

Just wanted his back, high cost not money and strange is poor, go back satisfied

Slide 24 Strange’s Bandaged Hands Turning the Dharma Wheels

Hands and wrist, recovering while looking for cure, turns dharma wheels, answers in other cultures, going through motions, asking fro kamar taj, turning wheels without saying mantra

Slide 25 “The place you’re looking for is called Kamar-Taj”

Bruce wayne in jail, strange in kathmandu, fish out of water, white people in other cultures, monastery/monastic, orientalism, privileged info, esoteric

Slide 26 The Ancient One

Fight after theft, powerful

Slide 27 Separating Body from Spirit

Resistance, sink or swim, mister not doctor, cling to status, forced to be humble, rude awakening

Forced out of physical body into astral

Strange resisted magic then ancient one rejected strange

Slide 28 Should They Teach Strange? (Is he capable of learning?)

Maybe turn into threat

Slide 29 Lead another gifted student to power only to lose him to darkness?

Ethically responsible?

Slide 30 Kaecilius, The Zealot

Went down dark side

Slide 31 Stolen Pages from the Book of Cagliostro

Knowledge is power, decipher it and exploit for power

Slide 32 Kaecilius Performs the Ritual Gains Access to Power

Corrupted-eyes darken

Slide 33 Wong, Librarian of Kamar-Taj

Practices forbidden, not knowledge

Humor to connect, beyonce

Not doctor, mister, cus not master yet, eventually just strange-humility

Slide 34 Learning Spells and Mantras

Stereotypes (wifi password)

Slide 35 language of sorcerers

Magic, reality, powers, limits of human understanding and abilities

Try to expand keyhole, limited himself with previous assumptions

Ancient one eases strange in

Slide 36 Metaphysics (What’s Real? What Exists?)

Substance ontologies- what exists doesn’t change


Process ontologies-what exists changes


Materialism-only physical matter changes


Idealism- only spirit, everything else is less real or illusion


Dualism-matter and spirit

Slide 37 you helped him to walk again

Spirit heals body

Slide 38 looking through a keyhole

Blockage to widening keyhole

Slide 39 differing ontologies

No spirits and stuff, just matter, ancient one says there’s more out there

Slide 40 Separating Body from Spirit

Astral form

Slide 41 “What’s in that tea? Psilocybin? LSD?”

Maybe abused, show what he doesn’t know, 2 things, dualism

Slide 42 open your eye

Can’t imagine or see other stuff in world

Slide 43 Beyond Time and Time Loops

Pushes time envelope, not just place but time too, reversible, different planes

Slide 44 looping time

Makes dormammu suffer

Slide 45 “Dormammu, I’ve come to bargain...”

Confronting limits

Slide 46 Ritual Theory and Rites of Passage

Changes: separation, liminality, incorporation

Slide 47 Ritual Theory and Rites of Passage contd

Liminal: between before and after, strange making own path between doctor and soceror

Slide 48 Victor Turner’s “Liminal Stage”

  1. Separation-doctor strange, car crash

  2. Liminal-try to cope, kamartaj

  3. Incorporated-sorcerer, fight kaecilius

Slide 49 change and metamorphosis

Life cycle of butterfly, in shell and come out

Slide 50 Passages and Crossings: Journey Metaphors

Journeys and what happens on the way

Slide 51 William James’ Four Marks of Mystical Experiences

Too much, can't describe, kinda like religious stuff

1. Ineffability-no language to describe

2. Noetic quality-knowledge only from experience, no other place

3. Transiency-temporary, brief, not forever, 

4. Passivity-can’t decide when, drugs/deliriumjust happens, 

Slide 52 Considering the edited volume Marveling Religion (2022)

Religion in marvel

Slide 53 assigned reading

Trauma, don’t choose, make sense, who am i now?, fight or flight, overwhelmed

Slide 54 Baldwin’s Books on Trauma

Pastoral, help others in trauma, shape identities

Slide 55 Baldwin on Trauma

Trauma and religion

Slide 56 Critiquing Presentations “East” and “West” and “Magic”

Eurocentric bias: divide eat and west, boundaries, outside of europe/center

Romanticise east in 60s by stan lee, all asia in one, mysterious

Sold as magic and kungfuSlide 2 villains in the spotlight

Villains to understand what hero stands for

Larger than life, cartoonish villains, snappy names THE something, one-liner, distorted, over accentualized, character flaw, 

Villains caused to act out, batman responds

Villain MO? What can batman do

Slide 3 “The Batman” Created by Bob Kane and Bill Finger

Later Inspired by original

Slide 4 breaking news!

1st time superhero (batman) on walk of fame, characters before but superhero first time

Important enough, physical, material culture

REVIEW Batman’s Origin Story and Role According to Christopher Nolan

narratives

Slide 6 REVIEW Duality of Batman/Bruce Wayne

Different roles to appease

Bruce wayne can’t act as batman

Slide 7 building a legend

Function of symbol as fear

Fear as tool, larger than life

Slide 8 Batman’s Villains Dr. Jonathan Crane/Scarecrow

Use criminals as guinea pigs, mask

Slide 9 Batman as “The Dark Knight”

Does batman exploit fear like scarecrow 

Slide 10 The “White Knight” District Attorney Harvey Dent

Batman exacerbating?, dent is good

Slide 11 Harvey Dent Turns into “Two-Face”

Downfall of good, duality, happenstance?

Slide 12 The Main Villain: The Joker

Heath ledger Good portrayal, just died, won posthumously

Usually played good now villain

Menacing and facade

Slide 13 REVIEW The Joker Presents an Ethical Dilemma

Maybe batman needs to be pushed, right choice? Utilitarianism? (best for most) or manipulated by emotions, batman just human

Slide 14 REVIEW The Trolley Problem

Utilitarianism, kill 1 save 5

Maybe lay down on tracks or donate organs, conform to ethics

Bruce won’t kill and join shadow people, but lets al ghul die, “don’t have to save you”

Letting him live causes chaos, must choose

Slide 15 REVIEW Which of These Would be Bruce Wayne’s Ethical Position?

Ethical relativism-multiple views

Ethical absolutism-good or bad

Ethical skepticism-no answer

Slide 16 The Joker as Nietzschean Critique of Morality?

Slide 17 Assigned Reading: “No Laughing Matter: The Joker as Nietzschean Critique of Morality”

Make fun of joke, laugh at assumed comfortability, not black and white

Ledger joker like satan/devil, question morals

Angel and demon binary, more options

Move past old: god says…, restricting human potential

Why like joker? What do we get

Joker reveals batman flaws, can’t save everyone

Slide 18 This Week’s Villain: Arthur Fleck/Joker

Struggles socially and internally

Slide 19 Different Portrayals of “The Joker”

White face, red lips, clown makeup, exaggerated, circus/vintage

  • Hide features, emphasize comedic attributes like smile

  • Something off, bold and menacing eye contact

Slide 20 The Voices Behind the Joker

Off Putting laugh, disrupt, bubble up, isolate

Slide 21 Menacing Madness of Jack Nicholson’s Grin

Disfigured by acid, permanent

Slide 22 Threats of Chaos and Anarchy

Ledger no laugh

Slide 23 Jared Leto as The Joker in Suicide Squad (2016)

Menacing, not as great

Slide 24 James Gunn’s The Suicide Squad (2021)

No leto joker, bad guys do good

Slide 25 Harley Quinn

Focus in suicide squads, sidekick, in love with joker

Slide 26 “Harleen Frances Quinzel”

Margot robbie, lady gaga, start as animated

Slide 27 first appearance of harley quinn (1999)

Animated first then tv, branch off from joker?

Slide 28 the joker in love

Desires filled?

Slide 29 The Sad Clown Joaquin Phoenix’s Arthur Fleck

Winds down to tragic

Slide 30 performing comedy

Trained, tries to make people laugh spontaneously, goal to laugh/perform

Spiral when bomb, internal instability when you laugh before they do, scares

Slide 31 forcing the facade

Intense desire for human interactions, forced smile

Slide 32 bombing on stage?

Projects himself to be on show

Slide 33 performing for the crowd

in on joke or being laughed at

Slide 34 Superhero Soundtracks JOKER “Send in the Clowns” Theme

2 step joke, set up and punchline-funny or shock

Narrative is arc

Send in the clowns, train scene and beat up by 3 finance bros

Why violent as reaction to bullying

Slide 35 Arthur Fleck a Villain or an Antihero?

Acts unethically, not self defense but rage/anger, runs down bully

Slide 36 Arthur Explains Himself

Wants his moment on the show

Slide 37 Arthur’s Statements on Murray Franklin’s Show “Life as Comedy”

Admits to killing, maybe responsible for riots

Not a joke, nothing left to lose, life is comedy

Slide 38 “Comedy and Ethics are Subjective”

Murray says not funny, arthur thinks it’s funny, subjective, system decides

Relates to ethics

Slide 39 But why did Arthur do this?

Start movement to be symbol, 

no, guys were bad, makes people crazy, 

Slide 40 Which of These Would be Arthur Fleck’s Ethical Position?

ethical relativism, bit of skepticism-subjective humour

Ledger joker not crazy

Slide 41 “You sound like you’re making excuses for killing those young men! Not everybody, and I’ll tell you this, not everyone is awful.” – Murray

Not everyone’s bad, good people out there don’t deserve

Slide 42 “You’re awful, Murray...You just wanted to make fun of me. You’re just like the rest of them.”

Murray is bad, laugh at him

Slide 43 “How about another joke, Murray? What do you get when you cross a mentally ill loner with a society that abandons him and treats him like trash!?” – Arthur

Kill murray, tipping point

Slide 44 Arthur Fleck a Villain or an Antihero?

Defend himself, was ridiculed/self defense, sympathize/root for?

Slide 45 Superhero Soundtracks BATMAN

Joker comedy, 

  • Hijinx then good place

Tragedy

  • Worse than before


batman different soundtracks, 

  • Movie (michael keaton/tim burton, theatrical) vs tv (fun, nananananana batman)

Slide 46 Superhero Soundtracks: Creating Tone and Mood

Iconic moments on screen

Slide 47 on “religion” and emotion

Different aspects

  • Myths and narratives, 

  • ethics (how to behave), 

  • social institutions (communities like churches/synagogues), 

  • material (objects like bible?), 

  • experiential and emotional (soundtracks, overwhelmed, caught up, suspension of disbelief)

    • Feel for joker, but maybe not ethical

Slide 48 “Characteristic Emotional Experiences” and the Psychology of Religion”

Extrapolated, underlying stuff that’s religious

  • Acts and emotions give rise 

Slide 49 What kinds of emotions are evoked by these origin stories?

(despair, loneliness, excited to project in superhero)Slide 2 review what is the nature of power? What is justice?

Abstract concepts like justice

Ethical consideration how they appear, comic or big screen

Slide 3 man of steel 2013

Superman origin

100 years old, what did it say in 2013 and now in 2024

Slide 4 action comics #38

Origin and golden age of comics

Batman, wonderwoman, superman

Changed origin story

Superman from other world, abilities from scifi

More origin added later

Slide 5 review last week’s assigned reading

How Birth father presented later and before

Slide 6 henry cavill portrays the character clark kent, the man of steel 2013

Different ways of seeing the world, clark kent his identity and actions

Ethical and identity considerations

Kansas or alien from krypton

Slide 7 review different types of film analysis

Semiotic symbols

Narrative plot, connections of what audience has

cultural/historical, context of when made or edited, immigration, refugees, global warming, climate change

mise-en-scene

Slide 8 semiotic analysis example “s”

Not s, krypton symbol for hope, ideal of house, virtues

Slide 9 narrative analysis example the reporter character “lois lane”

Ally vs friend

Ethics of family, kents in smallville

Reporter and sources

Slide 10 Cultural/Historical Analysis Examples

Adopted, outing, should lois out him

Slide 11 Mise-en-scène Analysis Example Clark Seeks Guidance in Church

What’s happening, how it’s staged

Clark in gathering place of worship, church

Stained glass of jesus

Priest costume, not named but can assume

Give himself to authorities? jesus vulnerable, mirrors


Childhood flashback, fight back? Or protect family, be aggressive, what happens? Ethical concerns

Larger than life characters


We’re not superheroes but we emphasise with larger scenarios

Superhero model for action, best example, or unknown, fear of his power, human nature

Slide 12 review Superman as Savior Figure? Or Villain?

Look for saviours why?

Fantasy of good people

Project desires of future, fall into complacency and apathy

We don’t take action, rely on others

Slide 13 REVIEW “Doctor Manhattan” Alan Moore’s Watchmen (1986-87)

Whole world fears him, lose something

Slide 14 “Doctor Manhattan” from Alan Moore’s Watchmen (1986-87)

Cold, distant perspectives, separate himself from politics

Slide 15 Considering Nationalism and Captain America

Who’s our people

Captain america only save americans? American interests

Slide 16 Today’s Topic: Batman’s Origin Story and Role According to Christopher Nolan

Not great models

Consequence of standing up with a lot of attention

Commissioner gordon says a lot of attention, someone likes theatricals

Superheroes make supervillains

Slide 17 “The Batman” Created by Bob Kane and Bill Finger Detective Comics #27 (May 1939)

Bill finger later, action

Bob cane-detective

Slide 18 batman television series

More personalities, robin sidekick

Slide 19 batman the motion picture

Adam west, characters come to life

flashy

Slide 20 Batman Animated Series Batman

action

Slide 21 batman in video games

Yourself in action, become batman

Control arkham asylum

Products created to liberate us to take on challenges, immerse ourselves

Some with blood, some without

Pow, no real contact, allude, staged on screen

Slide 22 Tim Burton’s Batman (1989) and Batman Returns (1992)

Over the top, larger than life, gloominess, fantastic world

Successful

What it takes to turn movies into feature films, 

How much production studio want for budget

Costume, makeup, capture imagination, worldbuilding

Slide 23 batman of the 1990s

Less successful movies

Villains capture attention, lose seriousness


Balancing act between cartoonish and very serious and constricted

Slide 24 christopher nolan’s trilogy

Larger than life and realistic problems

Slide 25 batman’s origin story

One iteration

Slide 26 duality of batman/bruce wayne

Inherited, nepo baby, center of gotham, legacy

Fill in the blank between the two

Why bruce wants to workout

Slide 27 bruce wayne's nightmare?

Flashback, traumatic childhood experience, dream

Young and adult at same time

Wake up in prison, maximum security, rage, violence

Bruce chose to be in prison, why choose to live like or be among criminals

Slide 28 Bruce traveled to understand the criminal mind. (But did not become a criminal)

Slide 29 How does Bruce Wayne become “Batman”?

Ducard comes in, mysterious

Like trying drugs

Violence for own code of ethics, bruce dismisses option

Slide 30 Ducard, Agent of Ra’s al Ghul

Al ghoul, aloof, whole society of fighters

Slide 31 Ducard Offers a Path

More than man, something else, a legend that can’t be killed

Don’t understand, unknown causes fear, trepidation

Bruce opposite problem, everyone knows him

Celebs don’t want to be known

Use power of fear to deceive or intimidate

Fear, grief, anger, duality

emphasize?

Slide 32 pick a flower in the mountains

World just, make sense

Violence, corruptions, tragedies

Slide 33 ducard’s lesson

Fear, use, exploit, cultivate

Answers to injustice

Use fear against those who prey on fearful, 

master own fears, mind over matter

Slide 34 special training from ducard

Tools to be larger than life

Scary, theatricality as tool, make opponent or audience think something

Slide 35 the death of bruce's parents

Death of parents change him

Remember batcave in opera, go out, puts parents in harm’s way, die

“Don’t be afraid” from father, focus on afraid

Slide 36 Alfred the Butler, Looking After What’s Left Behind

What bruce wants to do, legacy, memories, ideals

Alfred left behind

Slide 37 bruce’s daddy issues

What does don’t be afraid mean, what to do

Follow in father’s footsteps

Ducard manipulate in training, what will he do, direct emotions

Death of father is father’s fault

Look for fault

Responsibility of murderer, father should’ve done something

Maybe bruce’s fault, afraid of opera

What ifs? Who’s at fault

swayed

Slide 38 Ducard’s Fear Test (Bruce Breathes in Smokey Vapor)

Guided meditation, fear exploration

Be fear, bask in fear, become idea, fear what don’t see, feer is power, seize

Slide 39 Ducard’s Fear Test (Bruce Breathes in Smokey Vapor) contd

Embrace fear=one with darkness, master sense, face fear

Slide 40 bruce and the bats

Bats afraid of you-father

Slide 41 ducard’s final test: kill the criminal

Bruce doesn’t kill

Just, innocent vs criminal

Criminal captive, “not an executioner”

Slide 42 back to gotham to combat poverty

Can be destroyed as human, incorruptible and everlasting as symbol

What symbol? bat

Slide 43 the chosen symbol

fear=bat

Symbol for idea

Slide 44 building a legend

Bats scare bruce, alter ego protect family

Slide 45 bat symbol

Obscure, no one knows, secret fear

Slide 46 creating the legend

Batcave from childhood

Types of strengths

Slide 47 bruce “borrows” experimental prototypes

Strength from wealth and connections

Batmobile, suit

Nefarious, weapons, bruce uses extra

Wealth imbalance, ethics not addressed

Slide 48 dr. jonathan crane’s fear experiments

Manipulate and exploit

Slide 49 dr. crane transfers criminals out of jail and into his care at the asylum

Use position to exploit, ulterior motives

Slide 50 “the scarecrow” introduced as villain

Obscured face, imagine worst fear

Slide 51 duality of batman/bruce wayne

Try to be asshole to get out of harm’s way

Could ask nicely but uses skillful means

Batman tech and psychology in shadows

Slide 52 quotes

Alfred-get lost in the monster

Batman not helping people he hurt

Vigilante? Become criminal

Slide 53 al ghoul and bruce meet again

Ducard is al ghul

Bruce bring al ghoul to gotham if didn’t save him

Action and inaction

Father don’t act, killed

Slide 54 Ra’s al Ghul and League of Shadows’ Plan

League of shadows behind everything bad

Restore balance, poor and rich, snuff out

Slide 55 “Why do we fall?” “...So we can learn to pick ourselves up”

Dad brings bruce out himself

Being there, emotional care

Why bad things happen to good people

Tragedy, evil

Fall to make stronger, empathy for others, our limits, reflect after

Slide 56 “It’s not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me”

Action makes the man

Slide 57 Tutorial Exercise Today Semiotic Analysis of The Dark Knight

Other Roles in society for justice

Batman with alfred and robin, fox

Slide 58 The “White Knight” District Attorney Harvey Dent

Vs. dark knight, duality

Good and bad, by the book vs at night

Slide 59 Harvey Dent Become “Two-Face”

Slide 60 the agent of chaos

Is he really acting ethically at the limit?

Al ghoul and batman trolley problem

Slide 61 the agent of chaos the joker

Slide 62 Thought Experiment in Ethics: The Trolley Problem

Batman save ships of people or people he cares about

How to live, what to do

Force batman to show ethical canvas

Slide 63 Which of These Would be Bruce Wayne’s Ethical Position?

• Ethical relativism

What’s right according to social context, cultural relativism, determined by culture

Multiple factors, time and place

Batman beat up: was person holding a gun, bad person, bad things


• Ethical absolutism

Ideals, absolutes, yes or no

What god knows in religious texts

Batman beat up: never violence, batman bad, be nice, no action


• Ethical skepticism

How to determine what’s right, you can’t

Only human

Batman beat up: idk


Slide 2 review why study superheroes?

Pop culture, narratives about exemplary people, virtuous, worthy of emulation

Marvel mythology

What were creators thinking?

On purpose or accidental

Slide 3 review reflecting on human actions

Who not to be, cautionary

How to categorize villains

Who they want to be in relation to others, duty, responsibilities

Slide 4 REVIEW What is the nature of power? What is justice?

Abstract concept, right and wrong

How it works

Slide 5 REVIEW Why Marvel and DC Examples?

Branded to sell, out for consumption, marketing

How we encounter in real world, collect?

Authentic faith, real religion? How value is understood

Slide 6 Last Week’s Assigned Reading

Where do we find/expect to find religion

Slide 7 Four Relationships Between Religion and Pop Culture

Multiple ways to engage

Religion in pop culture, jewish or christian in superman

popular culture in religion, Music in church

pop culture as religion, geeks, dedicated fans, star wars, “i’m a jedi”

religion and pop culture in dialogue, how to pray, violence in video games

Slide 8 “What do religion and film have in common?”

S. brent plate essays

  • Religion creates worlds

  • Films make worlds, suspension of disbelief

  • Part of the action

Slide 9 “Worldmaking” in both Religion and Film

Imagine type of world

Slide 10 Religion in film

Epic narrative, recreate biblical story, explicit

Slide 11 film as religion

Star wars, debate what’s canon

Slide 12 This week’s assigned reading

Man of steel not out yet

Role on earth

Slide 13 man of steel (2013)

Same themes as old movie, new cultural context

Slide 14 henry cavill portrays the character clark kent, the “man of steel” (2013)

no word “superman” for awhile, don’t know name

Powers from earth radiation, adapt from overloaded senses

Slide 15 action comics #38

Origin story, discovers powers

Leaping not flying

Taglines, man of steel, bulletproof

Explanatory narrative, because he had to adapt to different gravity, scifi

Slide 16 krypton the doomed planet

Horrific ideas of what alien means

Alien movies, monstrous not normal

Superman fits in, looks human

Why react strange when different?

Out of extraordinary circumstances get extraordinary beings

Slide 17 Jor-el (the scientist)

Think beyond krypton

Survival

Community die for better chance of others

How to prepare

futurist

Slide 18 general zod

Control, coup

Slide 19 “he’ll be a god to them.”

What to do with son, we don’t think it’s extraordinary

First birth in generations, eugenics, incubated

Natural birth, private

Not normal

Extraordinary action for different path, deviation from norm

Future not ourselves

Want to keep child, no room to escape

Lara-they’ll kill him

WILL BE GOD

Slide 20 “...An act of god…”?

Frequent God talk

Providence: Religion to explain

Act to preserve, need to keep secret, negative consequences, expectations, demand, fear

Must be a reason, how to parent child, parents saw the ship, don’t know krypton

Seek birthplace for himself

Slide 21 different type of film analysis

Slide 22 semiotic analysis

Interpretation of signs and symbols, metaphor, analogy of character and object

In time, place, and story

Slide 23 semiotic analysis of the “S”

s=superman but just what people call clark

jor-el , s=family insignia, means hope, different symbol different culture

Look beyond, bigger concept


Slide 34 jor-el you can embody the best of both worlds

Ethical duty, force for good, what’s good


Same as clark and on codex

Let clark engage with father and ship systems, 

key, opens up knowledge from father and kryptonian tech of ship

Slide 24 narrative analysis

What happens, plot, not images

Characters navigate through scenarios, choose

genre

Slide 25 amy adams portrays lois lane

Role of reporter

  • Observe action and communicate

  • Who is clark

  • What’s buried in ice

  • Who should know, 

  • ethical, protect sources, reveal clark and shift

  • Duty to, what to say, proof

Slide 26 “welcome to the planet clark.”

Love story

  • After saving

  • Lois is threat, expose him, ally?

  • Let in world in kansas, what does she do?

  • Trust, work together

  • Romantic connection, desire, kiss

Different goals

  • Lois find out

  • Clark fit in, glasses

Welcome to planet

  • Daily planet

  • Planet earth, 

  • Lois knows his identity

  • Skill to navigate what she knows

  • Double speak

  • Lois welcomes because he has a place

Ethics of clark

  • Turn in?

Side 27 cultural/historical analysis

Bigger themes, major events

  • Climate change, krypton and earth’s resources

  • Terraforming, exploit climate

Films speak to audience lived experience even in fictional smallville

2011-13 events

Not just general themes, real world

Slide 28 kryptonians are colonizers

Kryptonians use earth and turn to krypton

  • Gravity, atmosphere

  • History of exploitation alluded

  • Abandoned outposts, death

  • Zod tried to salvage, scraps

Conquering, exploiting resources, leaving destruction behind

Slide 29 kal-el a refugee on foreign soil

Zod calls kal-el refugee, he’s the codex

Flourish on his death, only need body for info

Don’t need person, just dna

Man of two worlds

  • One world sent to another

  • Home destroyed, mercy of new world

Slide 30 mise-en-scene analysis

Ethical dilemma, clark is exposed

Single shot analysis of clark’s dilemma

  • Who’s in the scene

  • Lighting for tone

  • Music for tone, message

  • costume

Slide 31 clark seeks out guidance in a church

Think through dilemma

2 scenes

  • Flashback, bullied in childhood

    • Could’ve struck back

    • Can’t hurt him, not the point

    • Type of man he wants to be, strength to seriously hurt

    • Inaction is action

  • Church, 

    • jesus on stained glass kneeling

    • Behind clark

    • Going to death

    • Surrender for others

Tone, religious, seeking help

Lighting

Shot, not just bust, also art


Bleak bullying scene

Vulnerable boy

Bleak weather, not bright or happy

Highlight themes


What if clark punched? 

Slide 32 wait, what is “religion”?

What to do?

Slide 33 jor-el’s advice

Hopeful message

Slide 34 jor-el: you can embody the best of both worlds

Protector of humanity

Slide 35 semiotic analysis of the “s”

Symbol of hope

Slide 36 captain america: the first avenger (2011)

National, patriotic

You’re not one of us- i’m from kansas

Slide 37 captain america’s origin story

Enlists in experiment to be super soldier

Slide 38 red, white, and blue (stars and stripes)

Bulked, cloaked in america

Petit to supersoldier

Rahrah america?

Slide 39 captain canuck

70s, not popular

Slide 40 captain canuck cosplayer

Rip-off captain america

How we envision patriotism

Slide 41 superman as saviour figure? Or villain?

Uneasiness, too much power, trust?

Batman v superman, maybe not our hero

Slide 42 the character “homelander” from the boys

Like superman, anxiety

Slide 43 “doctor manhattan” from alan moore’s watchmen (1986-87)

“Superman is real and he’s american”

Slide 44 “doctor manhattan” from alan moore’s watchmen (1986-87) cont’d

Builds himself from nuclear experiment, puts himself back together

Choose to become what he is

Flew to mars

Rely too much on him, people around him get cancer

More ethical to go to mars?

Slide 45 “doctor manhattan”

Multiply, do whatever he wants

Slide 46 “doctor manhattan” contd

Doomsday

How to critique

OTHER, what we owe, others we fear, xenophobiaLecture 1 Introductions and Origin Stories

Deck 1 Reflecting on Human Actions “Heroes and Villains” Religion, Role Models, and Cautionary Tales from Marvel and DC

Slide 2 Why study religion? Why study superheroes?

Hagiography: legend about person so exemplary you need to talk about it

Stained glass - how mediaeval christians encounter saints in visual form “be like this person”

heretic=villain - popular narratives

How humans should behave

Didactic texts - designed to teach

Don’t want liars


Tales in different forms: Written material and oral

  • Want truthful people like george washington and cherry tree-folk tale

  • Buddha achieving enlightenment

Slide 3 reflection on human actions

Joker about to go on stage and make people laugh

Fake lip makeup-artificiality, a mask/persona to perform

Slide 4 considering conflicting goals

Not one goal

Multiple narratives and examples

Conflicting of ideal way of being- how one should live

Batman v superman- different ideas, no consensus

Legal hierarchy-who can arrest someone, who can determine a sentence?

  • Batman is a vigilante-beat up someone to death?

Slide 5 ethical dilemmas and saviour figures

What role does superman fill in american cultural context?

What does it mean to have superpowers?

With great power comes great responsibility

Larger than life-needs to be checked and balanced eg homelander


Slide 6 What is the nature of power? What is justice?

How to operate with vulnerable people: captain america civil war

Comical context but important discours


Slide 7 why marvel and dc examples?

Coke and value: coke or pepsi hegemonic (ruling or dominant in a political or social context.)

Can’t get away, ubiquitous

Is deadpool a virtuous character? Intertextuality? -Call out one narrative to another

Reference to little mermaid eg.

  • callout to type of character she is, 

  • representation in live action

Slide 8 religion in film

virtuous, religious, political figures, trickster

How religion is depicted eg biblical narratives, sacred texts


Slide 9 moses

How he’s portrayed by an actor

Slide 10 film as religion

Star wars, jedi code, sith

Slide 11 different types of film analysis

Focus on

  • Semiotic analysis - signs, symbols, objects, colour, vibrancy

  • Narrative analysis-what’s referenced, images, stance, no slouching, human body as symbol


Slide 16 What do religion and film have in common?

What’s just, what’s moral


Slide 17 and 18 “worldmaking” in both religion and film

Fight to be free

Suspended disbelief

Whats if people had superpowers, this was the state of the world etc

Rapidly establish world and set the scene


Slide 19 wait what is “religion”?

Ideal world, How to avoid dystopia

No standard definition- fallacy, different cultures, places in time

Interdisciplinary


Deck 2 Considering Marvel’s Black Panther

Slide 2 marvel studio’s black panther (2018)

Who becomes black panther?- a role


Slide 3 african diaspora and afrofuturism in film

Why interesting in 2016 

why does comic character spark imagination

Real black panthers-civil rights

Diaspora-dispersed, try to come back into a community

Imagine and feeling reunited

Afrofuturism-

  • themes of no apartheid, 

  • living better off from tech advancements, 

  • Sci-fi

  • No problems of today


Slide 4

Wakanda-

  • unconquered, 

  • kept from the world, 

  • no one knows how advanced, 

  • low profile

  • Spies but don’t reveal hand


Slide 5 T’Challa returns to his homeland after the death of his father, King T’Chaka

Crisis of succession

Tchala


Slide 6 If T’Challa’s claim is recognized, he will become King of Wakanda and receive the power of the Black Panther

T'challa step into father’s shoes

Capable individual

Seen as legitimate?

Rituals


Slide 7 but others will rise to challenge him for that role

Contrasting views 

Killmonger wants to open up

Two views of utopia

Killmonger grew up outside

T'challa wants to maintain father’s status quo, stay closed

Killmonger says wakandans are not to be messed with


Slide 8 stories of promised kings: considering ethiopia for the rastafari

Descendents of slaves-unbroken tradition?

Ethiopia


Slide 9 the rastafari movement

Marcus Garvey tells african people to take pride even if brought to jamaica and not connected

Look for unconquered king-prophecy


Slide 11 Haile Selassie I Emperor of Ethiopia (1930-1974)

Haile selassie (formerly Ras Tafari Makonnen) crowned emperor of ethiopia

Prophesied king from unconquered nation (ethiopia)


Slide 12 the rastafari movement in jamaica

Greater than human


Slide 13 rastafari worldview

New idea, ethiopia is promised land

Powerful god, like jesus for christians


Slide 14 T’Challa’s story inspires much like the story of Haile Selassie

T'challa like haile selassie

Black superhero own movie-not side character

THE black panther movie-magnum


Slide 15 African Diaspora and Afrofuturism

Fictitious, unconquered land


Slide 16 Reactions to the Release of Black Panther in 2018

Snoopdog buys out theaters to inspire young black children

Rolemodel-

  • not enough for perfect figure, 

  • needs to be human, 

  • aspiration, 

  • connection


Slide 17 In America, Members of Black Churches Organized Screenings of Black Panther

Church goes to watch movie

How important?


Slide 18 Godlike Superheroes?

Gods?, too big to be mere mortals? Deities? Mythic?

Difference between god and human, where does superhero/demi-god fall, mutant

Retelling old mythologies?


Slide 19 yoruba religious traditions

Real world inspo

Orishas-lower gods, more able to engage with humans, intimately 

Humans take attributes and become gods through connection

Black panther taking on previous black panther powers


Slide 20

Inspo from orishas

Real human models posing as and depicting gods

Subconscious images, inspiring

Small and big screens: art gallery and movie

Political and social

How people choose to go to movies?

Barbie phenomenon-dressing in pink, going with friendsSlide 2 ​​Why Study Religion? Why Study Superheroes?

Like villain, ethics what they’re like, script, apply to won life, role models

Religious figures in other format

Morally grey/dark knight, white knight better? What to learn

Slide 3 Reflecting on Human Actions

Don’t need to wear cape

Self preservation, responsibilities, humans in micro and macro scale role

Sacrifice, scapegoat-symbolic like arthur fleck, different representations

Slide 4 What is “religion”?

No definition, what they mean or leave out

Slide 5 Definitions of Religion

Ninian smart comparative 7 dimensions, different types

William james psychological approach-internal, emotions, mind

David chidester’s functional definition-coke, pop culture

Cliffor geertz’s anthropological approach-round egg thing, maria statue


Different disciplines

Slide 6 7 Dimensions of Religion

pratical/ritual, -costumes, light candle

experiential/emotional, -feel, soundtrack

narrative/mythic, -story, arc, human origin stories, identity, 

doctrine/philosophical, -real stuff, soul, body

ethics/legal, responsibility

social/institution, government, superman and kansas

Material, merch

Slide 7 Different Source Materials

How characters act, comic or film, fanmade stuff, what types of media mean

Slide 8 “What do religion and film have in common?”

World on screen,

Slide 9 “Worldmaking” in both Religion and Film

god makes world, secular or religious

Slide 10 Different Types of Film Analysis

Interpret, semiotic, narrative, cultural/historical, mise en scene

Slide 11 Semiotic Analysis

S in man of steel, krypton, family, hope, fear

Slide 12 Narrative Analysis (Comedy or Tragedy?)

Type of narrative, overall theme/arc to be hero or villain, origin, broken

Ethical relativist, skepticist, absolutism

Slide 13 Narrative Analysis (Rites of Passage)

Different statuses, transformation,

 spiderman bitten by spider, great power great responsibilities

Becoming new person, rite of passage, different social status

Slide 14 Trauma and Rites of Passage

Change yourself, lose capabilities, what’s left, different role

Slide 15 Critiquing Perceptions of “Magic” and “Religion”

Belong to different cultures, sources of power and knowledge

Buddhism, pilgrimage

Slide 16 Cultural Historical Analysis (Colonialism and Genocide)

Impose and exploit resources

Untouched, no exploitation, resist

Slave trade, diaspora

Slide 17 Cultural Historical Analysis (Critiques of Gender Bias)

Good vs bad girl, hero vs villain

Feminine limit, be good, less good

Slide 18 Ethical Considerations (Living Authentically?)

More than one way to be hero

Slide 19 Becoming a Hero

Leap of faith, live for one self

Slide 20 Reflecting on Material Culture And Commodity Fetishism

Material culture, engage with, brand, cool, choose, matter what’s on it

Object to fetish, more than it is

Maybe make own stuff, maybe sell

Slide 21 Reflection on Individual and Community

Legacy, companies as brands

Stan lee-hero helps people, right thing, must do

Slide 22 Practice Essay Questions

  1. Stan lee, person help cus should, must, right thing, ethical position?

Relativist, should

Slide 23 Practice Essay Questions contd

  1. Black panther, religion, definition, dimensions, how understood

Slide 24 Practice Short Answer Question

  1. 2 types of commodity fetishismRyan Smock’s “Who Are You? René Girard, W. E. B. Du Bois, and Black Panther” In Marveling Religion: Critical Discourses, Religion and the Marvel Cinematic Universe. 


    Not a lot of minority superheroes until civil war-black panther

    How to overcome satanic blame, victimization, scapegoating?

    Sense of self with no desire, conflict, violence?

    Black panther unique cus hero is above social and political adversity, just himself

    Humanitarian and teacher, not just warrior, answers “who are you”

    Girard on the root of all conflict

    Consequence of rivalry between t’chaka and brother prince n’jobu 

    stolen vibranium, want to use for own ends, see each other as enemy, kills brother

    Could’ve avoided killing and knocked out gun


    Rene girard-deceit, desire, and the novel: triangular/mimetic desire

    • Copy desires from others

    • Boy 1 looks at giraffe to choose what he wants, boy 2 immediately wants giraffe

    • Boy 2 gets giraffe but boy 1 refuses even if he wouldn’t have cared cus didn’t want


    Boy 2 is subject, giraffe is object, direct line

    Other toys but wants giraffe cus boy 1 is holding it, boy 1=mediator or model of desire

    Maybe boy 1 knows which toy is best, reason he’s holding it

    • tutelary belief-effect on subject more important than true value

    • If boy 2 thinks boy 1 has giraffe for a reason, it’s desirable

    • Desire is imitated or mimetic

    • Boy 1 sees desire and wants to copy

    • Boy 2 get giraffe-shift in relationship, rival in way of getting the object

    • Triangular relationship between


    T’chaka mediator, n’jobu subject, vibranium desired object


    Girard analysis of max scheler: difference between hatred, jealousy, and envy

    Hate: someone models desire but prevents us from fulfilling it

    Jealousy feeling when rival has desired object and we want

    • Tchaka hoards vibranium to keep safe, n’jobu can’t use to free oppressed

    • By stealing, n'jobu threatens tchakas ability to keep secret safe

    • Each deprive the other of object that makes them rivals

    • Each wants to defeat or remove each other


    Two triangles, each sees other as rival, conflict, stronger till violence


    Envy: efforts to get object failed and we feel impotent

    N'jobu failed, lost vibranium, fights then killed

    Modeling action versus modeling ideal

    Analysis confined to internal mediation: limited is mediated by someone in social sphere, drawn to conflict


    Positive mimesis in external mediation-role model outside social circle makes desire away form objects and to ideals, 

    like jesus, heaven to save everyone from sin, no imitate actions like others but resemble

    Eg detached generosity, be nice and give without favoritism or prejudice


    Internal mediation-materialistic or acquisitive, jesus-compassion and care

    Heal, preach, and support anyone

    By being nice, no mimetic rivalry and violence


    But satan acts as model for desires, easier to imitate

    Abandon ourselves, defy morality and prohibitions

    Presence not being, invitation to think that not want what others had is not to have a good time

    False sense of liberation cus then we just want to copy and be hateful when in way


    Tchaka exclusively tchallas role model, meet spirit, wanna be good king like him

    Action not ideal, wanna hoard vibranium like him, consumed by his identity

    No warrior need king but he’s “satanic”


    Satan is accuser, people who desire something fought over, scandal

    Everyone wants same thing but prevents anyone else from getting it

    War of all against all/mimetic crisis

    Community express collective violence but can’t attack itself so has scapegoat

    Blame all on them, satan is violent contagion who makes scapegoats guilt

    Make them driven out by community


    Tchaka rivalry revealed, show false model, njadaka was scapegoat

    Lift shadow of father but njadaka comes back and pits wakanda against each other

    Satanic cycle of violence, blame, and victimization

    killmonger’s mimetic origin

    Complex villain, consider part of global community while tchalla is only wakanda

    Erik as product and commentary on african american history, slave trade


    Vickie mays-human identity must be examined, relationship in social and historical development of society

    No human immune from ideologicalizing influences of social context

    Fit in, live up to others’ standards and expectations

    Good, honourable, just- collective abstract desires

    Black culture teachers that theyre inferior, mediation


    Transmission in mimetic process, borrow everything not just desire, fuel conflict

    Racial ideals-wanna be better than others, selfish-mimetic violence


    But can’t go against society like a rival with internal mediation, can’t change mind

    Change thoughts, external mediation but only works with scapegoat

    Reaffirm own ideas, both vilified


    Negative stuff makes black people have double consciousness

    Look at yourself through another’s eyes that don’t like you, slaves, coping

    Internalized racism-less violence, dual identity, real and pseudo-self-feel bad


    Like njadaka, born in us, racially bound to racism but prince of wakanda

    Live in poverty while watch relatives thrive

    3 names, eric, kilmonger, njadaka, 2 for pseudo-self, 1 real, inner conflict

    Wants violent retribution cus from satanic stuff

    Call to responsibility

    Authentic desire, your own, but allmediated

    Don quixote surrenders fundamental prerogative, agency=individual

    But obsessed with others-vaniteux, vain, rely on others to determine their desires


    Luca di blasi-give up a promethean egotism for autonomy, 

    inseparable from mimetic desire, more I, more me-victorious-mimetic conflict

    Accept mimetic desire, overcome illusory autonomy and have it real instead

    Woken up by jesus, as new model, or anyone outside mimetic triangle


    When aware of models of desire, autonomously choose which to follow


    T'challa wants to be good king like dad but needs own place in world as himself

    Humanitarian nakia is outside, help others, be own person

    Split from dad 

    Agent ross is 2nd outside person, protected nakia, would sacrifice himself to protect wakanda


    David fleming: Catholic-conscience is call to goodness, follow god

    Law has 3 parts

    • Call to do good, no evil

    • Want moral truth

    • Actic in a way

    Deepest conscience is call to responsibility, with other


    Conatus essendi, latin for being tired

    Scruple- part of human nature, tired to differentiate between good and bad

    Other makes scruple move, can’t ignore, pebble in show, call to responsibility


    Conatus chose between yourself and other=good, pre-intentioned to be good

    Conscience counters selfishness of internal mediation
    Responsibility has own meaning, just there, commanding, intentional


    Easy to dismiss nakia for helping others cut they are distant and vague

    But ross is urgent and immediate, t'challa mimetic process makes confrontation

    T'challa vs nakia and ross, good or bad, so save life instead of keep wakanda secret, duty


    Choose own subject of desire-brotherhood


    Tchalla motivated by conscience to right the wrongs of ancestors

    No mimetic violence, try to save killmonger, help others, is himself, not father, no cycle of violenceJeffrey Scholes, “The Coca-Cola Brand and Religion.” In Understanding Religion and Popular Culture, edited by Terry Ray Clark and Dan W. Clanton, Jr., 149-166. 

    Introduction

    Brand logos ubiquitous, corporate brands, commercials, labels, billboards, product placement

    Annoying or helpful


    Corporate brands are unique cultural expressions, identity of product or service

    In pop culture on purpose, carefully constructed to make meaning for consumer loyalty, brand makes it popular not product


    James twitchell: religious deep, cluster around like sacred, loyal, live through and around, part of man

    Act like religion, religious power

    Pop culture product, religion, brands and religion

    Theory and method

    Brand, sign to distinguish, successful when there’s story/narrative

    • Customers, critics, sellers, or company itself

    • Into personal narratives from story without notice

    • Plots, characters, metaphors, make conventions in everyday life


    Brands do something that can’t be done or didn’t need to be done, 

    meaning of product not product itself

    Embody ideas people admire, express who they want to be, “identity brands”

    “Iconic brands”, appeal to much of society, contribute to identity of community or nation, apple, nike, budweiser, mcdonalds, coke

    • Make identity, mythical aura

      • Historical, founding

      • character-driven, who’s running it or buying

      • Functional, what it can do

    • From legendary stories, real or not


    ‘Mac person’-story, add to it, bridge people, identify with

    Not necessarily part of pop culture, need to be liked by many, quantitative, iconic brands, john storey


    Coke is popular, powerful, and rich

    Logo conveys happiness, american patriotism, Community that drinks coke

    Participate in coke, participate in those ideas

    Popular and in culture, mass audience-into pop culture, john storey

    General and deep needs for the most people-mass audience, john storey

    Corporations only want mass audience, others just want to appeal, not whole goal

    Pop culture is from people-john storey but now everything is commercial, not spontaneous, “top-down”

    Consumers can make or break brands with purchasing power

    Pop culture: struggle between resistance of subordinate against incorporation of dominant, producers vs consumers


    Top-down: look and feel, psychological tactics, brand saturation, control brand

    Use focus groups but corporations final say

    Consumers can manipulate brand image, struggle-pop culture


    Chidester functional definition of religion: being human in human place

    • What religion does not what it is

    • Limits of being human, cope with suffering and death

    • Transcendent (above), sacred (different), ultimate (final, unavoidable)

    • Perspective of human  in human place, community, desire, exchange


    Pop culture between humanity and religion, mediator

    Pop culture changes, do religious work-authenticity

    Ask if something is religion, pop culture help to arrive at truth, even fake

    Even fake religion has community, maybe real religion

    David Chidester and the religious work of Coca-Cola

    Coke as religious work cus global fetish

    Fetish: something that has power beyond original properties,

    Marx: fetishism of commodity-material products for consumers

    Logos, who they are or should be-human in human place

    Commodity is religious object-extraordinary, attention, desire, reverence


    Coke had sacred aura, secret formula, national and personal narrative

    Wwii, santa, peace

    Coke in culture, movie, literature, art, lyrics, relationship to sacred with object

    Icon of west, modernity, desire, communal bonds-fetish, goal of religion

    Fetish unstable-made or material


    Clifford geertz religion definition

    1. System of symbols

    2. Powerful moods and motivation

    3. Order of existence

    4. Like fact

    5. Moods and motivations seem realistic


    Inauthentic coke can make religion, anything can be religion

    Commentary

    Mine pop culture for religion, describe religion to contrast

    Cocacalonizaiton: desire for something you don’t need, ads, not religious

    But ignore pervasive and brand saturation and penetration

    Don’t need to overcome to find real religion, religion in pop culture

    Religion mediated by culture, pop culture not too shallow or artificial

    Religion needs to be meaningful otherwise just a whim

    Coke is unstable fetish, not long-lasting motivation, not transcendent truth

    Can worship material fetish like statues

    Coca cola not sacred, just corporation make into fetish

    Brand more important than needs of consumers

    Drink can’t be social, uses brand

    Double instability: made object and not long lasting fetish, just bottom line

    Not sacred cus is fetishized product created by humans motivated by human stuff (money=religion)


    Human in human place is broad, can include coke 

    Needs to be transcendent and immanent

    Fetish can do religious work

    More inauthentic it seems, more we ignore, “real thing” not real thing, want actual real thing

    Ronald L. Grimes’ article on “Ritual” in Material Religion: The Journal of Objects, Art and Belief vol. 7, iss.1 (2011), https://doi.org/10.2752/175183411X12968355482097 

    Ritual is actions, treasured and iconic or not

    egg= darner, lady=doll=statue in church, both wood, ritual

    Decorated statue, egg abandoned in attic, not “she”, before cinderella

    Virgin mary: hispanic and latino, cultural identity, our mother, conquistadores, “my children”

    1st person, intimate, “writes” own books, “speaks” directly, roman catholics

    In processions for family reunion and remembering dead, over city and ethno familial

    Overall to all residents, privately only devotees who regard her as mother, family property

    Makes city cooperative based on good will, be included is complement and obligation

    Rituals to go to dead, interethnic violence into sibling rivalry, fathers look over


    Egg is plain, passed around during class, no meaning, maybe have nicknames

    No meaning to passing around but students ask about it, 

    can’t throw it out cus everyone handled it

    Know it’s trash but got attached, 

    practices, like objects, have history, cycle up or down 


    Be careful to make claims about it, what it can do

    People died for statue but bad for indigenous, power difference

    no animist, I play animateur saying, “Stuff has mind of its own” and “Things are people too.”

    Regardless of how declarative ritual authorities sound or how imperative they act, all ritual is performed in the subjunctiveJohn C. McDowell’s “Marveling at Captain Danvers, Or, What Is So Super about Our Heroes?” In Marveling Religion: Critical Discourses, Religion and the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Edited by Jennifer Baldwin and Daniel White Hodge, 197-215. 

    Mlk jr: inequity and violence in injustice, sincerity and conscientiousness not enough

    • Turn to vices, ignorance and stupidity is dangerous

    • Jesus executors blind, be insightful and honest in self-examination/enlightenment

    • Moral responsibility to be intelligent


    Theodor adorno: culture industry

    • With max horkheimer: hollywood makes moral blindness that distract from life

    • Henry giroux: mass deception bakes workings of own ideology indiscernible

      • Entertain not educate but storytelling is political

      • Make social stuff that limits range of meaning that can be taken


    1. Film is range of cultural understanding, barometer for social change and issues

    2. Movies manufacture plausibility, subjects, and moral and political judgment

    “Superheroes in Kairotic Time Post 9/11”

    Christian steinmetz: comics promote nationalism, conservative,

    • no utopia so fighting continues

    • No change in status quo

    • Power fantasy for teen boys


    Matthew costello: political commentary un comics in 21st century

    • 2 years after 9/11, comics question US culpability, 

    • US no longer virtuous for progressiveness

    • Superheroes became problematic, can’t save US


    Mcu, post 9/11 cinema, cultural trauma through cathartic compensation

    Susan sontag: reflect world-wide anxiety, try to soothe

    9/11 isn’t just a date, but knowledge and power exchanged

    Kevin wetmore: pre and post 9/11 to categorize viewing the world and what to do

    • Cultural shift

    • War on terror’ less politically sophisticated and nuanced

    • rupture=need to comprehend, explain, and restore


    Terrence mcsweeney: 

    • mcu replays and perpetuate mythological values part of american identity

    “Captain Marvel and a Politics of Hospitality”

    Focus on feminist potential cus female lead

    Mcu women support cast

    Nods to male gaze in captain marvel, more subtle than all female team up

    Lucia stasia: anxiety about changing gender roles, no anxiety for post-feminism

    • Convince that it’s oist-patriarchy

    • White, middle-class, no politics, 



    post-9/11

    • 1. Global Terror threat

      • Range is global, world-changing/threatening

      • Threat to life itself, apocalyptic catastrophism

      • Frank kermode: apocalypse show how we make sense of world


    Elisabeth ford and deborah mitchell: disaster in all film genres,

    Wheeler winston dixon “romance of armageddon”, fear a romance


    Earth in danger in captain marvel

    2. Post 9/11: agencies take responsibility and heal

    Ernest becker: hero saves society from evil of death

    Robin rosenberg: want larger-than-life heroes, be inspired and rescued by them

    Can’t imagine peace, plan well, be fair, heroes not from society but freak of tech


    Vigilante violence shape american imagination

    Superhero represent americans, fantasy of global superpower saving the world

    heroes=social catharsis, carol part of american military-industrial complex

    Jason dittmer:american ness of superheroes intensified cus superhero genre is global

    3. Self-depiction to be pure

    Paul petrovic: american national victimhood from 9/11, only certain conditions

    Captain marvel post 9/11, skrull is terrorist threat, 

    us/earth is innocent, accidentally in conflict

    Slavoj Žižek: Go back to basics, basic ideas, 

    • Nothing innocent with getting rid of historical guilt and irony preventing national identity

    • Politics of purity is simplifying

      • Citizens Are zealous cult to state

      • Nostalgia for values and virtues of state

      • Purifies national memory

    • Mcsweeney: perpetuate narrative of 9/11 instead of asking questions

      • Uncritical and unreflective narrative of american victimisation

      • Disconnect from geopolitics

      • Erasure of political and historical context

      • No social, no action for change and responsibility


    4. Blame, from vulnerability and victimhood to dominance and control
    • Othering

    • Douglas kellner: manichean mentality, other is evil, 

      • deny own violence and aggressions

    • Other is sub-person, can’t speak, us vs them

    • Presence, role, importance, and subjectivity erased

    • Athena athanasiou, abnormal life, derealize violence, can’t be human

    • Boundary, getting rid of other is hygiene and social therapy

    • Pharmakon, justifies immoral stuff as collateral damage


    Other is pure threat in captain marvel but it subverts

    Fury worked in cold war, alien threats, training to eliminate, no emotions


    Associate skrulls as villains first, voiced by villains, ominous, chameleon abilities

    Paranoia, no trust

    Žižek: political struggle is making image of enemy or else they're invisible

    • Looks like us, can’t be recognized

    • Features as target for hate and strugle


    5. Stuff from Logic 

    Resistance so need redemptive action, holy terror-terry eagleton

    Kellner: violence to solve problems and empower males, trope

    Binary imagination gives american fantasy where no ambiguities, just good vs evil

    “Myth of good war” more destructive than retaliatory biblical smiting

    Sontag: enemy worse than murder, no restraints, anything justified,

    • No moral problems, no moral qualifications

    Dittmer: america simple morals, limitless violence like dominant and assertive heroes

    Superhero narratives: discourse through which world is understandable


    Žižek: conflict doesn’t resolve itself, must break out

    Kree as victims, genocide, but did human experiments, genetic purity, military, imperialistic

    Kree vs skrull

    Skrull shapeshifting induce panic and violence

    Skrulls are peaceful midway through captain marvel, unarmed, reveal truth about kree


    Terrorist and war to mean state action against terrorism are idological constructs

    Žižek: terms for present conflict are false terms, mystify perception, can’t think

    Freedom to mask, lead to unfreedom

    Terry eagleton: war on terror, “evil” label hides explanation

    • Terrorist are irrational abstract agency

    • explanation that evokes social circumstance is justifying terror


    Žižek: retaliate on “terrorists” is sad duty, USA police, don’t like US cus no power

    Kree are genocidal not other way around, skrulls like virus, heal means killing them

    Humanize skrulls, with their family, humans as friends

    Enemies recognized through empathy and sympathy

    Conclusion

    Pop Culture in disciplinary technology of self

    Mcsweeney: Post 9/11 produce, prolong, shapes, give meaning to possible responses

    • Ironman is antithetical, rejects and perpetuates US identity, military industrial


    Captain marvel contests post 9/11

    • Not male hero

    • Challenges dominant political issues of power excluding “other”

    • Unlearn inherent dominative mode that alienates and excludes

    • Crisis of subjectivity, separate consciousness and what’s learned

    • Relearning restores who she was, challenges how she was with others

    • Refugees as result of kree


    Žižek: threat to common way of life is global capitalism not refugees, price for economy, production of ‘redundant people’


    Not totally anti-hegemonic

    1. Lot of violence to subvert, superhero genre

      1. Legitimize violence for politics

    2. Women’s role in violence, subjects of violence and sacrificial death

    3. Binary of other as villainous, 

      1. Henry giroux: violence so normal no longer part of history

        1. Fed by fear in US, surveillance, incarceration, security

        2. Undermines trust, breeds hatred of other, no compassion

      2. Doesn’t undo fear even if it has compassion, just change object of fear

    4. US as saviours, morally unambiguous certitude

      1. Superhero conventionality

      2. Only official story of good USA

    5. No hospitality for skrulls, only a ship, just want home

      1. Sympathy but keep them on margins, back into margins

      2. No integration, alliance, mutuality, only difference

      3. No home cus displaced indigenous people


    Terry eagleton: culture says some humans don’t deserve compassion

    • Needs cultural sophistication


    Captain marvel tries to disrupt but not really 

    • Still kearney’s challenge against us and them

    Mlk, moral intelligenceJ. Oropeza. “‘Behold! The Hero Has Become Like One of Us.’ The Perfectly Imperfect Spider-Man.” In The Gospel According to Superheroes: Religion and Popular Culture.


    Growing pains, bullying, unlucky

    Old character, many movies, comics, even female version

    Popular cus human, : poor, personal problems, people don't like him

    Like us, coming of age, human problems but superhuman

    Peter parker angst: living in a world that rejects the friendly neighborhood spider-man

    Raised by uncle and aunt after parents killed, new york=realism

    Powers bit by spider, spider sense

    Use for showmanship and money

    Uncle killed, then starts to fight crime

    Teen tribulation

    Question why things go wrong

    Can’t perform for money cus reputation bad after in the news, public menace

    Can’t join fantastic four cus they’re nonprofit

    Popublic don’t like him, has enemies

    Can’t cash spider-man cheques

    Bullied by flash thompson, friends in college, reconcile later

    Help pay rent and aunt’s medical bills, tries to be photographer

    Rooms with harry osborn

    Dock ock is aunt may’s tenant

    Aunt may hated spiderman, almost marries dock ock until exposed that he’ll steal her money


    Emphasize life is complicated and confusing, want community, belong, love

    Acceptance, significance, life's calling,

    Spiderman like looking into mirror, no money even if work hard, accused as criminal

    Who am i? Why do it if bad consequences

    Teen heartaches: tangled in a web of romances

    Betty brant, wants to reveal identity but hates him when brother died, dates ned leeds


    Gwen stacy but but hates spiderman for dad’s death, acts as redeemer cus loves him

    Then died, first time leading lady dead, big part, good guy not always wins

    Mary jane, knows he’s spiderman

    Masked identity angst and the green goblin saga

    Should share anxieties with loved ones

    Keeps identity as insurance so personal life not affected, loved ones would be in danger

    Almost exposed many times

    Tragedies avoided like harry osborne into greengoblin and dead if revealed identity

    Could’ve been like jesus, keep secret with close people till ready, avoid deaths

    Didn’t understant true love, mercy forgiveness, anger but no rejection

    Want him alive rather than not, like bible: love covers sins

    New challenges: the clone saga, an alien suit, and the “anti-christ”

    Later is black and white not red and blue, is venom, attaches to eddie brock

    Becomes villain, also carnage both from spiderman’s suit like 2 dopplegangers

    What spiderman is without morals

    Dark side after gwen’s death but no killing just hitting

    • If bad end up like green goblin


    jackal/professor miles warren makes clone of gewn and peter

    Clone gwen leaves peter, clone peter becomes ben reilly, became real spiderman


    Peter no longer teen, better life, then ben killed off

    Bring back old villain, green goblin back, peter was real spiderman all along

    Goblin as anti-christ, returned like in revelations, 

    • Crucified by glider then rose again, recond coming


    clones=nothing is certain, characters revive

    Releauched spiderman but never uncle ben cus other wise change character

    Spider-man’s guilt

    Was actor then ben died, track down murderer who he refused to help before

    Change purpose to fight evil, blames himself for death, motivated by guilt

    Great power comes great responsibility

    Orphan to find identity, journey himself

    Unamed burglar as mirror to emphasize peter’s own fault


    Responsable for aunt, almost kills her, nothing left but prayer

    When recovered, freed from guilt of her condition but still guilty over uncle

    Gives up spiderman for a bit cus unhappy then restarts cus people can’t be harmed


    Then lost gwen, blames himself, she’s victim of his double life, no grace

    Nothing overcomes guilt, wants revenge on himself like orphan, neurotic

    Powers like curse, bad life

    Spider-man’s redemption

    Fight villains cus it’s right, give up dreams to do good cus great responsibility

    Like bible werse, save life will lose, lose life will save

    Do unto others what you want done to you-bible verse


    Faces burgler who killed ben, spares him, 

    Aunt may was kidnapped, closer with peter, love greatest medicine-bible


    As spiderman, more justice and hate crime

    Responsible not cus guilt but chosen by god to help others

    Was misguided, good can’t erase bad, needs to believe in god, his sacrifice

    Then crucified and dead, like jesus sacrifice for humanity

    Spider-man as the model of human imperfection

    Adam and eve sined, lose connection with god

    Jesus as one of us to rescue and bring us back to god

    Both selfless to help humans

    Peter like apostle peter not jesus, both suffer from guilt, no grace

    Like whom christ wants to save


    Spiderman needs to suffer and sacrifice for us to relate

    Like jesus was carpenter

    Reflect in humanity not christ, see what’s human about jesus which is what we love

    Andrew Tobolowski’s “The Thor Movies and the ‘Available’ Myth: Mythic Reinvention in Marvel Movies.” In Theology and the Marvel Universe, edited by Gregory Stevenson. 

    Thought traditional narratives had no authors, just from ethnic consciousness

    Stories stayed same, people that old it changed

    Understand traditions, understand group, ur-narrative


    Primordialism-outdated ethnic identity, Stable tradition=stable ethnic identity 


    Traditions and identities change, rethink how traditions inherited, stories retold

    Still look for truth, tradition inheritance has rules


    Marvel has source material, 

    • norse myths for thor, afro-futurism black panther, american patriotism and history-captain america

    • Draws on other movies from before and after


    Individual creativity in telling stories, reformulate and retell


    Mcu-story is what’s acceptable

    TRADITION AND THE INDIVIDUAL

    Ragnarok-loki’s theft is wink, pretend to be odin

    Really, thor stole odin’s part as leader and role in norse myths, lose eye, hanging


    Marvel different source materials like memes, and myths, how did I end up here?

    3 sources: mcu, thor comics, norse myths

    • Memes is individual imagination, specific to time and place of premiere

      • Internet culture

      • Usually miss it, voice, no analysis, from writers

      • Pop culture aesthetic-another source material

      • What’s appropriate depends on author

    MARVEL, THE ANCIENT WORLD, AND THE “AVAILABLE MYTH”

    Myths: stories from past, not always true, cultural significance

    Marvel movies not myth, taika waititi feel different than comic or myth author

    Authors play by rules how they understand, anything possible

    Fluidity from new meanings not changes=taxonomy, ordering system/hierarchy

    • Or vocabulary, meaning from arrangement, emphasis, and style

      • Shrek uses fairy tales but interesting delivery

      • Vocabulary less limiting


    Mcu source material, hammer from stone like sword from stone from arthur

    Vocab reference from source material, analogy, interesting cus available


    Thor and arthur both medieval but different cus different vocab


    Troy movie, myth elements to other materials, made up stuff too, 

    • from roman aeneid, based on greek iliad

    • Both classic mediterranean, looks like can can mix


    What belongs together shapes retellings

    Constrained by what’s traditional but not always, group choice, who we are

    Available is up to individual, don’t care much then do whatever


    How fast stuff is tradition, don’t need source material knowledge

    • Comics become canon like myths 

    • Oral storytelling more changes


    Individuals only respond to authority, 

    what is thought to be traditional/canonical may be innovative, individual imagination

    MARVEL AND MYTH, MYTH AND MARVEL

    Stories told differently, changes not discussed as author expressions, just world shift

    Communication contexts-why created, for what, do stuff for time, place, audience etc


    Thor has myth and mcu narrative constraints from before and after, also not constrained

    • From previous movies but then goes on own path

      • space for individual imagination

    • Original myth elements modified

    • New installments, more available traditions, vibranium wa only shield, now more


    Sacred, more control, make tendencies not rulesJennifer Baldwin’s “‘Open Your Eye’ Psychedelics, Spirituality, and Trauma Resolution.” In Marveling Religion: Critical Discourses, Religion and the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Edited by Jennifer Baldwin and Daniel White Hodge, 179-194. Lanham: Lexington Books, 2022.

    Looking through key hole

    Threat or Trauma before superpowers, fuels and guides for growth into power

    Response to crisis, threat, or trauma depends on resources post-crisis

    “Sufficient” support: traumatic response, recover resilience, traumatic growth, super

    No support: overwhelm, ptsd, “villain”

    Trauma response determines if villain or hero

    sdasc=safety-dependent altered states of consciousness

    To show you just how much you don’t know

    Arrogant and superficial neurosurgeon, reputation over patients, crash, bad hands, no surgery

    Kamar-taj for therapy but goes into new world, consciousness, time, space, spirit

    Gets powers and becomes Sorcerer supreme


    Not every bad thing becomes traumatic

    Fight or flight, trauma when overwhelms coping

    Dr. strange, losing hand function, lose wealth, expertise, connections, trauma and destabilise

    Can’t process sensory, narrative, and relational input, what’s left out triggers ptsd

    • Affect sense of time, embodiment, affect, or thought, 

    • Turns to different state of consciousness=survival response from hormonal response, “trauma-related altered states of consciousness” (trasc)

    • Less trauma less trasc


    Trasc

    • Intrusive thoughts, flashbacks, negative thinking, hearing voices, hyperarousal, feeling body parts not real, negative emotions

    • Strange: lost sense of time, posttraumatic body dysmorphia, rage

    What’s in that tea?

    Who’s strange without his hands?

    Identity, purpose and how to cope with trauma is part of spirituality and theodicy

    normal “ treatments don’t work, unravels strange’s western, and medical view, overwhelming

    Move and change, decenter being or crisis of faith

    Kamar-taj for bleeding edge solution and ancient one 


    Reference to Life pre-trauma less important, 

    remember and process trauma 

    Make new way of being with past, threat, and survival

    Mordo “forget everything you think you know”, unknown spaces

    Strange tries to be a surgeon an starts quizzing, ancient one reorients from western keyhole, spiritual stuff, strange rejects, ancient one puts him in astral form, strange confused


    Other states of consciousness= new perspective, not always healing but can help trasc when used well, 

    psychedelics for spiritual stuff and healing, more western research after banned in 70s

    • Trust between therapist/guide and patient/client

    • Client more awareness and connection to god or divine

    • Ketamine, weed, lsd kinda legal, be careful

    New psychological and spiritual space like apocalypse (uncovering) and revelation (learn new stuff)

    Wedding the keyhole

    Sdasc: transform norms and structures

    • Structure overwhelms trauma survivors

    • Trauma causes dissociation

    • sdasc=clarity, courage, compassion


    Ritual theory, track transformation

    1. Separation-ordinary to ritual state

    2. Liminality-in between before and after

    3. Incorporation-new status or way

    Different after

    Psychedelics, prayer, meditation, diets, can cause ritual theory

    Strange going to kamar-taj

    Psychedelics in ceremonies, rites of incorporation-strange: plea to learn


    Trasc: liminal is like dissociation, not different, sdasc: liminal with a “trip”

    Social, personal, and neurophysiological changes, 

    “time out” from norms, disrupt default patterns

    Normal: “doing” leaves no room to process, post-trauma: “doing” in time loop

    Like dormammu and strange


    Perspective, find new response, new understanding of concerns, release burdens, interpret

    Not alternate, but widening keyhole, see more=neuroplasticity


    Neurons that fire together, wire together, generate new connections, think and feel differently

    Keyhole narrow in trasc, replay trauma response, good biologically cus keep us away

    • Rigid learning, erode trust, driven external or internally

    Feel safe, seek new stuff (sdasc), feel threat, don’t change (trasc)

    Reorienting the spirit into the mystical arts

    Different interpretation of divine based on spiritual tradition and culture

    Use drugs at rituals, spiritual growht, more awareness


    Religious experience

    • Can’t describe mystical experience “ineffability”

    • “Noetic quality” learned something

    • “Transiency”, short time

    • “Passivity”, can be induced


    Mystical doesn’t mean religious/spiritual like trauma doesn’t mean ruined

    • Seeds that can be cultivated or ignored

    • Not experience but how we respond


    Can go back from trauma or have darkness and have new path, origin story, dr strange


    Ancient one

    1. “Open your eyes” disrupt 

    2. “To show you just how much you don’t know” trip


    4 elements of religious experience, 

    • ineffability, this can’t be happening, confused, whirlwind

    • noetic, ancient one teaches that there’s more

    • transient, only a few minutes

    • Passivity, can go back, ancient one make him experience again, “teach me”

    Open the door

    Perception opened by mystical/psychedelic experience

    Experience isn’t life’s meaning and purpose, just 1st step


    Integration

    1. Return from altered space to connection, safety

    2. Identity experiences and lessons, learn

    3. Implement wisdom, live

    “Study and practice…years of it”


    Can move on after trauma

    Altered consciousness as trauma response, mystical awakening, or drugs

    Must be safe, no threatsJamey Heit’s “No Laughing Matter: The Joker as a Nietzschean Critique of Morality.” Vader, Voldemort and Other Villains: Essays on Evil in Popular Media. Edited by James Heit, 175-188. Jefferson, North Carolina: McFarland, 2011. 


    Mobs have clear good or bad, easy villain, violate morals

    Binary of good triumphs evil

    Maroni in batman but joker robs bank, new breed of criminal, not same evil

    Steals from mob

    Joker offers to get rid of batman, 


    he’s not crazy, but not interested in material or moral values

    Subvert expectations

    Evil not easy, don’t know how to categorize, look away

    Not interested in money, bruce doesn’t know why he isn’t greedy

    Just watch the world burn, doesn’t care

    Crime is joke, evil is game, don’t care for outcome/consequences

    1. Make sense of someone who can’t be categorized, binary

    2. Why does joker’s evil appeal

    Joker like devil

    Nietzsche: joker diverts from moral binary

    Deviation is evil and appealing


    Manipulate like devil, satan tempt adam and eve

    • Adam and eve can be good like god, won’t punish, snake subverts god

    • Nuanced discussion in binary

    • Misdirection paradise lost, rebellion

    Conflict when satan expelled from heaven

    • Blames god, rift

    • Satan will be justified, not god


    Batman is facade

    Institution is bad, no phone call, batman into cell

    Good is product of utility, not trusted


    What's evil?

    Alternative, batman may need to kill, batman considers

    Joker like snake is powerless, but subverts notion of good, that frames whole conflict

    Doesn’t claim evil is better than good but whole paradigm is flawed

    Those who adhere fracture self-identity

    Labelled good or evil to dismiss


    Nietzche: morality believes in realities that don’t exist, misinterpretation, ignorance, nonsense

    Binary distorts reality to justify

    Joker subvert paradigm to undo, expose institutional distinctions

    Doesn’t deny reality=ahead of the curve, chilling because true


    Christianity

    Human, all too human, feel bad being not doing, misunderstand choice obscures consequence

    Become who you want to be

    Not free so feels remorse, problem

    Consequence according to framework

    No one responsible, judge is to be unjust

    If you judge, others judge you

    Unlike jesus, reject him

    Will of god and humility is cowardice to be decisive


    Joker bombs 2 ships, wants to dissolve binary but people failed, clung to good, timid cowardice

    Freedom is act without prohibition, joker doesn’t surrender


    Thus spoke zarathustra, only god knows good and evil

    Dream where distinctions make certainty

    Nietzsche uncertainty, god doesn’t affect others, decide for themselves

    Freedom when don’t accept others’ standards


    Joker makes circumstances to get rid of good

    Do this, do that and be happy, immoral unreason

    Harvey and rachel bomb, no right answer

    Happiness and morals limit freedom and fractures clarity

    Don’t take reason’s ability to address stuff for granted

    Saving dent gives consequences

    Original sin in interpretative response to decision not disobedience


    Dent wants pain, good didn’t save rachel, disassociate from good

    Reject binary, two-face

    Joker- no one panics when stuff goes according to plan even if same thing

    Chaos is fair, two face flips coin, shift in good and evil

    Chance is fair, independent from morals like joker

    Zarathustra: risk and danger, dice-playing for death

    Chance is morally neutral, ground freedom

    Joker doesn’t care if two face shoots him, just that he abandons framework

    Release from false certainty, immortal sin of reason


    Joker is evil because doesn’t care about hospital, subvert paradigm

    What kind of derange person does that

    How to respond to someone who rejects binary

    Unhinge from binary=unsettling, actions and consequences no moral worth


    Nazi no morals like joker

    Only watch if normal

    Evil acts normal, ability not willingness

    Banality of evil, support or observe

    Evil in culture can be unchecked, not individual

    Joker evil but seduce good

    Evil not monster, maybe clown

    Clown hurt trial and suffering, not noticed or reported

    Clowns resist standards, divert, distract, amuse, obscure dark reality

    Joker exposes batman shortsightedness

    Villains exploit space from good

    Joker exposes us for relying on people telling us good and bad

    Evil doesn’t follow good, good fails

    Evil thrives when ignoredSuperman most ubiquitous symbol of american pop culture

    Created by 2 jewish teens in 1938

    Always had religious or scriptural references, jewish or christian


    Religiously multivalent: different interpreters find different symbols and themes about same thing

    Meaning comes from interaction between interpreter and text

    • Clues in text and reader experience

    • No one fully responsible

    Superman origin retold

    June 1938

    • Distant planet destroyed by age

    • Scientist puts infant son in hastily made space ship and launches to earth

    • Passing motorist finds it and puts in orphanage

    • Child gets powers and decides to use it for good

    Little religious symbolism, nothing specific

    Alien with great power decides to use for good and not dominate

    Any connection is not very useful

    Daily strip

    • Jor-l and lora, krypton scientists birth kal-l

    • Earthquake threatens to topple home, family is fine

    • But planet will explode

    • Jor-l wants to make big ark to move everyone to safe place but government refuses

    • He still secretly builds a small ship to test flight 

    • but planet gets destroyed and superman is put on it to go to earth

    • Parents are self-sacrificing

    • Passing motorist picks him up and puts in orphanage

    Ark-noah’s ark in torah, rescue entire populace

    Ark for moses

    • all male hebrew children killed in egypt

    • Moses put in basket “tevah” down the river

    • Safe future for sun like noah in alien culture

    Superman #1

    • The kents advise him to use powers for good but hide alien identity

    • Krypton just experimental ship, no family background

    • Kents replace passing motorist

    • After dropping him in orphanage, kents come back to adopt

    • Kents give love and guidance

    • Dad says hide identity

    • Mom says do good

    • Kents explain why superman does good

    • Kents death makes superman more determined to do good

    Kent’s advice adds ethics

    • Can draw parallels between moral actions and religious ethics, 

    • superman can be “claimed” as religious symbol

    • Influence pop culture, convert

    • Mother named mary, christ parallel

    • Christ as alien come from heaven but looks human

    • Too many details missing for a good link

    Superman: the movie

    Various interpretations

    What details signifies one religion more than another

    How do people understand superman religiously


    Jewish

    • Godlike nature of name

      • el=god

      • kal=with lightness, swiftness, vessel, voice

      • jor-el , white colour, divine

    • Immigration for sake of survival, dual identity

      • New world, remember heritage

      • Superman passes as normal, refugee

      • Clark kent-jewish male stereotype, timid socially inept, weak, clumsy, not sexual, nebbish

      • Superman jewish, mixes “old world” sensibility and anti masculinity with superman physical prowess=new home in america

    • Old testament and jewish heroes, moses

      • Singled out by god like superman’s dad

      • 12 year tutelage with robot dad in fortress of solitude

      • Dad says to use powers for good

      • “Commission narratives”

        • Confronted by divine when discovering green crystal and watching creation of the fortress

        • Introductory word- jor-el introduction

        • Commissions- by dad to do good

        • No objection so no need reassurance and sign, can still be represented by uniform and powers

      • light=divine presence

      • Killing First born=kryptonian

      • Both sent away for protection

      • Raised in foreign cultures

      • Help people

      • Hide true identity

    • Jews make illustrated books, haggadah


    Christian

    • Heavenly father

      • Sun becomes father, father the sun

      • Jesus lives in you, paraclete

    • Moses parallels with christ too

      • 12 year tutelage with robot dad in fortress of solitude

      • Dad says to use powers for good

      • Jesus also fled because male infants would be killled

      • jesus=new moses

      • Mostly moses over samson and hercules (physically strong peopl)

    • Only son for divine mission with secret identity

      • Earth people lack the light - jor-el

      • light=jesus, light of the world

      • Clark will change humans and shine his light and make other good

    • Christ figure himself

      • Dad says “my only son”

      • fulfillment for hope of messiah, saviour figure

    • Commission is incarnation, servitude, could be torah too

    • Echoes bible

    • Chsitomorphic, transfigures story of jesus

    • Whole movie shows possibility of incarnation of divine love

    • God makes servants suffer and triumph for humans


    Examination of superman

    4 Issues

    • Difficult subject, very interdisciplinary

    • Different understandings of same text, relationship between text and reader

    • Pursue knowledge of history, older origin stories, appreciate changes, holistic view

    • Open to analysis and critique, no one is rightReligion appears in pop culture like music and tv shows

      • Yoga and hinduism

      • occult phenomena like angels, demons, witches, vampires, zombies (haitian vodou)

      • Superhero good vs. evil

      • Crucifix pose on posters

      Shortened workshops to accommodate short attention span from tv

      Super bowl festivities=religion

      Learning about religion thru pop culture helps us 

      • learn role of religion in everyday lives and its perception

      • How religions change by culture


      Defining popular culture

      High/elite culture 

      • gourmet meal

      • Transmitted in written form eg literary magazine, music score, cookbook

      • Limited audience by intention

      • Aimed at people with perceived superior backgrounds or sophisticated taste


      Folk culture

      • casserole

      • Passed orally eg family recipes, legends, customs

      • Limited audience from oral communication


      Popular culture-

      • mcdonalds hamburger

      • Widespread and popular from mass media eg tv, radio, movies, books, magazines, social media

      • Larger audience


      Culture: neutral term, range of human products and thoughts that surround us and provide context

      Some say culture should only be for sophisticated and quality stuff eg symphony not polka band

      Analysts say it doesn’t make judgments on value, quality or taste


      How indispensable are the mass media to the concept of popular culture

      • Ray Browne, a key figure in the founding of the Popular Culture Association and the American Culture Association. 

        • “Way of life of a people”

        • “Existed since primitive times”

        • Before printing press and mass media

        • Eg laughing at play

        • Discuss pop culture through all of human history

        • Merges with folk culture but in contrast with high culture

      • Russel Nye, also a central figure in the development of popular cultural analysis as an academic field. 

        • Needs mass audience from urbanisation and democratization

        • Mass distribution eg printing press and mass media

        • “Cultural condition that didn’t appear in western civilization before late 18th century”

      • Mass mediation?

      • Both agree pop culture is what’s accepted by a large group of people

      • Important in its transmission eg tv, movies, music, coms, social media, video games, magazines, popular fiction

      How widespread?

      Top 40 but also specific categories of music=subcultures/sub-universes

      Why some pop culture flourishes?

      No clear difference between between levels of culture eg old folk music is high culture

      Notion of “pop culture” brings attention to common commercial and entertaining parts of cultural context as worthy of attention and reflection


      Analyzing popular culture

      Why pay attention? It both reflects and shapes us

      Reflect

      • General public makes stuff popular

      • Producers manipulate tv and we decide what we like

      • Why is stuff popular? Figure out why and learn about ourselves

      • Jack Nachbar and Kevin Lause, in their introduction to popular culture analysis at the beginning of Popular Culture: An Introductory Text, “pop culture formula”

        • Popularity of something is proportional to how much it reflects our belief and values

        • We don’t examine things themselves but the meaning in the culture as a whole

        • Quest for meaning for popularity

        • Mirror and reflects but it’s distorted and only reflects back a portion

          • Influenced by intentions of creative forces

        • Funhouse mirror


      Shapes

      • Reflection reinforces our values and deepens our connection to them

      • Only show certain images and alters perception of reality 

        • eg no african americans in 50s

        • White people forget them

        • Internalize message that they’re marginal

      • Michael Real Mass-Mediated Culture

        • Mass mediated culture serves interest of elite

        • Programs mass consciousness

        • “Give people what they want”-maximise profits, restricts choice, fragments consciousness, hides alienation

      • Kenneth Myers, an evangelical Christian and a journalist

        • Pop culture: “erosion of character, spoils innocent pleasure, cheapens life itself”

      • All include hope that if we analyze pop culture and raise them to a level of consciousness, it affects us less

      • Activists try to blunt pop culture and change its production to something more appropriate


      Conflict between pop culture creators and critics: both reflects and shapes

      • Encourage materialism, prompt violence, demean women vs. merely reflections of society

      • Video games Make violent society vs. society already violent

      • Both may be true but one claim can be more significant


      Some discussions only limit to intention of creators and nature of object itself 

      need to focus on audience reception : how and why public receives and responds

      • Eg. bts of star trek but needs how and why star trek is popular


      Learn more by examining patterns rather than examples

      • Single example focus on creative uniqueness

      • Patterns have broader themes and popular response

      Recognizing religion

      founding of the Popular Culture Association in 1971 

      the American Culture Association in 1979,

      Pop culture text in 1992, no religion

      American Academy of Religion in 1995, topic of religion exploded


      Levels of religion

      • Institutional religion eg. christianity, islam, judaism, etc and smaller groups

      • Broad societal assumptions about holiness and what’s valued eg wealth=success, value of family, individualism

      • unique/personal beliefs and practices

      • “religion”=institutionalized group

      • “spirituality”=general movements and private expressions

      • “Spiritual but not religious”

      • Scholars use “religion” to include everything


      Definition of religion

      • Christian theologian Paul Tillich :“ultimate concern,” 

      • undergraduate text: “any person’s reliance upon a pivotal value,” 

      • Organizing principle in life, what’s important and everything else is subordinate

      • Includes religion and other passions/priorities eg nationalism, materialism, sports

      • Popularity is what public values, could be “religion” 

      • Also human expressions closer to traditional religions

      • Julia Mitchell Corbett’s Religion in America “ system of belief, lifestyle, ritual activities, and institutions that individuals give/find meaning to their lives by living by what they think is holy, sacred, or of the highest value.”, more restrictive definition

      • Religion is spectrum, present in superheroes, struggles of life, celebrity, tv


      Four relationships between religion and popular culture

      1. Religion in popular culture 

      Catholic nuns, monks, preachers

      Redeemer played by comic heroes, apocalypses, witches, angels, vampires, zombies

      Movies focus on religion eg ten commandments, chosen, little buddha

      Explicit representation eg nuns, monks, muslim prayer rugs, exorcisms

      Patterns?

      Implicit appearances eg christ allegories like 

      • ET, come down from earth, loved and misunderstood, died and resurrected

      • Superman returns

      • Man of steel, zach snyder wanted to add christ-like parallels, superman metaphor

      • Jewish themes in superman 

      • Neo in matrix either christian, buddhist, jewish or gnostic

      • Plot structures: ‘classical monomyth”

        • Hero goes to supernatural

        • Encounders forces

        • Victory

        • Comes back

        • Eg ulysses, aenas

      • “American monomyth”

        • Paradise threatened by evil

        • Institutions fail

        • Superhero victory from fate

        • Goes back and fades

        • Westerns, comics

        • Secularization of Judeo-Christian redemption

        • Heroes replace christ

        • Hope of divine bigger than science

      • Films have cross-cultural forms, the way hollywood reshapes, invents, rejects archetypes

      • Pop culture stories like themes of love, meaning, sin, death and resurrection, forgiveness

        • Ask questions of identity 

        • How the world poses question, parallel own faith

      •  Andrew M. Greeley, a Catholic priest, sociologist, and prolific author. Find god in movies because the art is fine and lively and vivid

      • Also in music videos, movies, comedies, stories, comics, books etc

      2. Popular culture in religion 

      Appropriation of pop culture by religion, impact and influence on what they believe and how they operate

      • Popular music styles in church

      • Adds

      • Pop culture slogans/icons

      Does pop culture change religion?

      Neil Postman’s Amusing Ourselves to Death: Public Discourse in the Age of Show Business

      • Change in thinking from print to tv

      • Marshall McLuhan’s “ medium is the message,”

      • print=serious rational discourse

      • tv=image-based culture, exploding pics, fragmented, sensation/feeling over rationality, entertainment first, anything on tv is entertainment

      • “The danger is not that religion has become the content of tv shows, but that tv shows may become the content of religion.”

      • Even more different with tech

      Religion as self help?

      Marketing religion?, good or bad?

      Pop Culture in religion least examined


      3. Popular culture as religion 

      3 types of religion

      substantive

      • Inner core/essence/ nature

      • Thing in itself

      • Relationship with gods

      • Favoured by philosophers/theologians

      Functional

      • Effects in life

      • Systems and how it helps people deal with stuff

      • Favoured by scholars in social sciences

      Formal

      • From comparative study and presence of religion

      • Stories, rituals, morals, communities

      • Favoured by historians of religion


      Pop culture is mostly functional and formal, a little substantive too

      Fandoms and conventions

      devotion to stories and people Eg graceland is elvis pilgrimage

      Religion? Meaning and purpose? Interpret the world? Belief systems?


      American pop culture as religion like worship services

      • Belief system, problems (evil), deliverance, future, resolutions

      • Westerns are rituals to americana like casablanca

        • Basic storyline

        • Evil from outside

      • Worships already held beliefs

      • American worship less explicit but still persuasive

      • Focus on beliefs 

      • Similar function

        • Cope with problems, find meaning

      • Religion for most devoted followers

      4. Religion and popular culture in dialogue

      Things that don’t fit in other categories 

      • eg. violence in media, 

      • religious leader debate is dialogue

      • Violence has no religion

      • Just in media and society 

      • Connects religion and pop culture

      • Catch-all,

      • Religion and pop culture not separate

      • Dialogue, used broadly

        • Talk to and about others

        • Conversion in shared interest


      Religious denunciations most publicised

      • Lgbt

      • Islamophobia

      Awareness to culture and diversity and less fortunate too


      Pop culture speak on religion negatively

      • Abuse in spotlight movie

      • Religious hypocrisy in east jesus nowhere

      Affirms religion too

      • Country albums with hymns

      • Heart warming movies and tv


      Only general issues 

      Religion approves of pop culture?

      Pop culture criticizes or affirms religion?

      • Ethical ares that religious values pertain

      • Gender, race, success, etc

      Mostly jewish and christian


      Conclusion

      More than 4 categories, not exclusive but interactive

      Use pop culture to promote religion

      Use religion in marketing and media

      Discussion of religious and cultural assumptions

      Fluidity in categories


      Get interested unapologeticallyPeter parker, was only spiderman

      Miles morales, other spiderman, same universe?

      Fun movie style

      Smart, entered a lottery, uncle bad, maybe satan?

      Hidden in plain sight

      Meets gwen

      Foreshadow spiderman, moving in the dark after getting to class late

      Tries to fail on purpose but can’t fail that bad

      Gwen likes him

      Spray painting when avoiding homework with uncle then stung by spider

      Gets powers

      Tries to hit on gwen but is “sticky”, everyone knows

      Overthinking, loud thoughts

      Two spiderman, doesn’t think possible

      Miles like spiderman like jesus?

      Wants to actually tell someone and not keep to himself

      Why happening to me

      Peter spiderman opened a portal, saved by peter

      Kingpin Opened 5 dimensions, exploded

      Needs to destroy portal

      Real spiderman killed and identity revealed, mary jane

      Uncle sent to kill miles but escape

      Counting on miles

      Use comics as guide, text in text

      Other spiderman came when miles was visiting other peter’s grave


      Peter b spider failed, sucked into mile’s universe


      Miles can’t swing

      Saves then Captures peter b to question

      Doesn’t wanna teach, better not to be spiderman

      Go through portal before bad stuff

      Needs mile’s help, agrees to teach

      Miles turns invisible

      Female dock ock wants them to study


      Gwen! Went to mile’s school after, knew he was there

      Kingpin lost his family, from other universe

      Make machine to bring back family


      Visit aunt may, make another usb after broken

      Meet more spidermen, dark, spiderman, pig

      Not ready, no powers

      Uncle disappeared, fight as villain, soft spot for him, finds out it’s uncle!


      Was followed by kingpin’s henchmen

      Uncle finds out it’s miles, shot by kingpin, uncle ben moment

      Dad is cop, wants spiderman


      Other spidermen leave him behind cus can’t prove himself

      Leap of faith to know when ready, faith-christianity stuff

      Worked!


      Kingpin party, Waiters dressed as spidermen, Peter b saw mj


      Miles help the spidermen at portal, 3rd act fight sequence

      All spidermen leave except miles who fights kingpin on his own and wins

      Reconciles with dad

      Anyone can wear the maskThor trapped, gods not all-powerful and holy, uncouth humour, still sound godly

      Mythical figures and events into pop culture

      Combine with earth, guy went to earth, got guns

      Memorable soundtrack evoke emotion for other religions

      Story in story

      Gods still “human”, dumped by jane

      Different higher powers coexist, dr strange’s magic and mythology

      Gods can be made a fool of, physical comedy

      Gods can die

      Hela flipped the script on loki, kneel

      Not all gods equal

      Subdivided jobs, god of___

      Mix religions, norse gods with halos, catholic frescos

      Reshape history, history told by victors, no peace treaties, won by battles

      Gods as entertainment, maybe in real life/distraction? Fighting each other

      Gods as sex symbols?

      Try to defy fate: stop ragnarok



      Flashback Crashes, bleeds blue

      Power and chip in neck

      Fights cus can’t sleep, needs to let go of past, makes vulnerable

      Has to control power, cus emotional

      Can’t see supreme intelligence

      Memory wiped

      Mission to retrieve spy

      Captured by skrulls, going through memory, looking for lawson for engine for home

      Fights them, blows out of ship, lands on earth

      Contacts team, told to stay

      Meets nick fury and phil coulson, don’t believe her

      Scrull finds her and attacks, fights grandma

      Coulson is skrull, fury kills, him, turns to skrull

      Steals bike and table

      Dissect skrull

      Makes friends with fury at empty bar

      Meets goose, infiltrate government hangar

      Look for records of lawson

      Lawson was kree, crashed testing light speed engine, danvers crashed

      Head shield guy is skrull

      Meets with rambeau who fills her in

      Talos in house

      Kree shot her down

      Blow up energy core gave her powers

      Everything i knew was a lie, wrong side of unjust war

      Find coordinates for lab, invisible

      Lawson was hiding skrulls, talos family

      Kree capture her, no power, with supreme intelligence

      Breaks out of trance, takes out chip

      Flurkin takes tesseract

      Ronin wants to take her down and tesseract but they leave

      Goose eats fury’s eye

      Carol will find home for skrulls, tesseract should stay on earth

      Gives fury pager

      Fury needs to find more heroes, start avengers initiativeCaecillius steal stuff, caught by ancient one, fight in other parallel realm?

      Dark vs light

      Light is hypocrite

      • Ancient one uses prohibited dark magic

      caecilius escapes

      Dr strange arrogant, likes christine palmer, other doctor,

      Operate on guy with bullet, wants to take out full bullet free-hand, show off

      Car crash on way to speaking while calling, glass damage hands

      Tries to fix hand, people and western medicine won’t help, expensive surgeries, poor now

      Finds someone healed with mind, then healed body, kamar-taj

      People try to rob strange, rescued by kamar taj people

      Forget everything you think you know”

      Look through keyhole, try to widen, but reject other ways to widen, don’t believe

      No such thing as spirit, just matter

      Astral projection stuff, then kicked out 

      Reminds like caecilius, wants to use stephen against him, teaches him

      Dropped off on everest, learns it’s not his hands that’s problem

      Finds eye of agamotto, time stone

      Caecilius stole dormammu stuff, could make time loops and stuff

      Caecillius comes back to fight strange

      Strange gets cape

      Caecillius wants to live forever, use dark magic, tempts strange

      Stabbed, goes to christine, astral project after defibrillation

      Fights other guy in astral projection?

      Ancient ones draws dark power to stay alive

      Strange becomes new guardian cus other one died

      Won’t kill cus doctor like batman

      Caecillius back, stabs ancient one, meant to die

      Strange fears failure

      Could go back to surgery but chooses not to

      Mordor turns quits and turns dark, blames ancient one for caecilius

      Sanctum already fallen in hongkong but reverses time

      Dormammu i’ve come to bargain etc time loop

      Draw on evil to defeat evil, not black or white like joker, chaos in between

      In charge of sanctum santorium

      mid credits, thor and loki come to look for odin, cause chaos strange helps

      Post credits, mordor is really evil, kills healed guy cus too many sorcerors





      Joker mask, crime

      People in clown masks go to rob bank

      joker planned heist but not in it, wants cut

      Clown backstabs each other when job is done

      Puts bomb in hands

      Banker with gun fights back, shot when he runs out

      Joker actually in heist, kills everyone else

      Money in bus blends in with other school busses

      Scarecrow back, sells bad drugs

      Fake Batman kills mob but gets sprayed

      Real batman comes in 

      Rachel and da in court, guy took over falcone tries to shoot da but not full

      Scientist gets chinese company

      Batman wants new suit

      Rachel and bruce dinner

      Die hero or live long enough to be villain

      Joker stole from chinese company/mob bank

      Joker infiltrate meeting

      Joker card, like bat signal but for joker, also he plays the card, leverage, advantage of card

      dent=da, want lau (chinese mobster)

      Joker plays games, gets mob

      Why so serious, why no joke

      fox/science guy, goes to hongkong to meet lau

      Batman goes into hongkong building, gets lau

      Arrest bad government people, judge has joker card

      Fake batman body from joker

      Batman, symbol not to be afraid of people

      Joker card that batman needs to turn himself in like superman

      Bruce throws fundraiser for dent

      commissioner and wife poisoned or blown off, joker goes to bruce party for dent

      Joker plays about his backstory

      Joker throw rachel off roof, bruce saves her

      Joker just wants to watch the world burn and have fun

      Batsuit, evolution of power and influence over city

      Joker gonna kill mayor

      Joker sole security uniform set bomb

      Good cop dead, Batman’s fault

      Rachel next, hides with bruce

      Batman gets bad government guy

      Dent playing games, gets caught up with games

      Joker gets arkham patients

      Rachel cheats on dent since bruce will give up batman

      Dent claims he’s batman

      Police diverted and run over

      Batmobile dead, self destructs, turn to motorcycle

      Joker wants to play with batman, tips his truck

      Good cop survived

      Not monster just ahead of the curve

      Batman talk to joker

      Joker wants bruce to kill him, dent missing,choose between rachel and dent

      Rachel wants to marry dent

      Batman comes for dent, rachel dies

      Joker planned to be caught and locked up

      Harvey becomes two face

      Joker burn money

      Joker gonna get hospital, they evacuate

      Coin, chance, two face, luck, game, fear, i make my own luck, fairness, equal chance

      Harvey survives, starts spinning/flipping coins

      Too much power for one person

      Science guy will resign cus bruce tapped everyones phone for surveillance

      Dent wants to know who picked up rachel

      Ferries gonna blow

      Boats blow up each other, civilians or prisoners

      Good cop family to leave to get kidnapped

      Joker tricks police into killing wrong hostages, hostage and bad guys switch clothes

      Batman caught, takes swat down the building

      People on boats volunteer to kill others

      No one’s like joker

      Joker and batman won’t kill each other

      Joker wants fun, batman self righteous, dance forever

      Joker made harvey mad

      Harvey gonna hurt good cop’s family, son

      Joker wants to prove even good guys can be crazy like dent

      Harvey shoot batman but bulletproof

      Joker won, dent’s work is undone

      batman=gotham

      Hunt batman cus he can take it and he’s not a hero, silent guardian, watchful protector, dark knightBad city

      Joker tries to smile

      Kids steal his sign, hit him with it, beat him up

      Laughs weird?

      “Death more sense than life”, in therapy?

      Was locked up in hospital

      Wants more meds, wants to feel better, laughing condition

      Lives with mom

      Wrote to the Waynes, who’s running for mayor will save city

      Late night show, goes on stage, in his head

      Guy gives him gun to protect, not supposed to have one, owes him

      Gotta payback sign, 

      Mom thinks wayne will help

      Follows someone he made smile 

      Makes joke wants her to come to his standup

      Guy who gives him gun gets him fired

      Guys on subway make fun of him, beat him up, he shoots them

      Starts dancing? Folie a deux, makes out with neighbour?

      Hide behind a mask, envious, won’t show face - wayne

      People don’t care, he thinks they do

      Good standup

      Girl thinks clown is good

      Wayne is his father not really mom is delulu

      Tries to entertain rich kid/bruce wayne, chokes alfred butler

      Comes back mom sick

      Police interrogated mom, gave her stroke, asks about gun, says it’s a prop, make fun of laughing condition

      Late night guy makes fun of his condition

      Wayne says people are clowns, smt wrong with them, protests and fight

      Joker sneaks into benefit, confronts wayne in bathroom

      Joker is a adopted, wayne punches him

      Joker’s gonna go on show

      Goes to arkham finds out mom was crazy, steals files, is adopted, abused, maybe brain damage

      Deluded about neighbour being in love with him

      Kills mom, life is comedy

      Plans to off himself on the show

      Dyes hair green before show and puts on makeup, transformation

      Clowns come to cheer him up from mom death

      Stopped meds, stabs guy who gave him gun, he wanted to get stories straight

      Runs from police on way to show, blends in with crowns on way to protest,

      clowns fight police reverse uno

      Murray call as joker when introduce, joker’s gonna be laughing stalk

      Weird sexual theme in whole movie

      Confesses to murders

      Everybody is awful these days, it’s enough to make you crazy

      Blows murray’s brains out

      Likes Causing chaos, gotham is burning, arrested, isn’t it beautiful

      Rescued by clowns, police car rammed

      Waynes out of movie, parents killed, mother’s pearl necklace

      Joker causes batman

      Clowns cheer him on

      In arkham asylum, leaves blood(y footsteps) behind himBat

      Playing with kid in garden finds smt

      Bruce falls down well, BAT, fear, trauma, nightmare

      Falling down into bats, nightmare

      Bruce in jail? Prisoners don’t like

      Practice? Fighting

      Very good, guards take bruce away to protect prisoners

      Bruce wayne is trying to disappear

      Ducard spies

      Ra’al ghul, league of shadows

      Vigilantes lost for struggle of own gratification

      Look for blue flower carry to mountain for purpose

      People tell him to go back

      Meets al ghuland ducard

      Seeks means to fight injustice

      Blue flower, symbol that he’s chosen?

      Manipulate fears of others, master your own, bats

      Death isn’t fair, ducard fights him after he climbed a lot

      Old arrow, childhood curiosity, adventure, arrow, fear pierce down, ancient acting, human nature stuff

      Pearl necklace, for mother

      Wayne tower, center of gotham, resources

      Bats, seriousness, in opera

      Gets out of opera, shoots parents, pearl necklace broken

      Dad says don’t be afraid

      Bats, reason for parents death, his weakness

      Pearl necklace, family, wealth, old life broken when snatched

      Gun, weapon, ends lives

      Wallet, wealth, resources, passport to high society

      Coat, police gives as comfort, shield, warmth

      Umbrella, shielding, grief as shield

      Wayne manor, safe house, bit of old life

      Alfred, comfort, reassurance, control, sanity, voice of reason

      Learns stuff

      Back for hearing, talks with rachel, old friend

      Man that killed parents might get early parole for ratting

      Someone shoots the guy walking out of court, bruce was gonna kill him before someone else did

      Revenge and justice isn’t the same

      Gun, tool for revenge

      Falcone mob guy inciting crime causing parents death

      Gun, revenge, throws it off bridge before confronting falcone

      Fear what you don’t understand bats

      Falcone insults him, gets thrown out 

      Trades jacket with homeless

      Starts living homeless, experience common people

      Thrill of success, never became of of them

      Blue flower, change to get batman powers? Black panther moment, breathe in fears and face them

      Become fear

      People simulate bats

      Commit to justice, kill prisoner

      League of justice kill gotham, not justice league lol

      Doesn’t kill, sets off explosives instead

      Mentor person died, bruce rescues as tower thing is falling

      Trapped on cliff, pulls him up

      Picked up by albert of a fucking private plane

      Father wanted to help poverty, murder made people help, big events spur people

      As a symbol i can be incorruptible, elemental, terrifying, bat

      Gone 7 years, someone wanted to take public liquidate shares

      Cillian murphy scarecrow HOT

      Sees bats, unfazed

      Explores batcave

      Scarecrow doing operation

      Bruce shows up at shareholders meeting, rachel finds out he’s back

      Wants to do science

      Gets armour from science department

      Orders stuff

      Police that helped him gives info to take down falcone

      Gets batmobile and fabric stuff from science department

      Bruce intercepts drug stuff first time as bat

      Bat, use it to incite fear in others now, boomerang thing

      I’m batman, he’s fear

      Falcone sent people to kill rachel, batman helps get leverage

      Falcone makes bat signal, justice, criminals in fear

      Police don’t like because they didn’t do their job

      Billionaire playboy genius philanthropist

      Wayne enterprises shipping weapon, someone turned it on, destroyed ship, weapon gone

      Sees rachel again after being weird

      Scarecrow makes falcone scared and insane

      Falcone guy shoots person investigating

      Inspires kids?

      Scarecrow burns a house?

      Scarecrow makes him scared, lights him on fire, fears back

      Blood poison? Out 2 days, wakes on birthdays

      Rachel find boss killed, bruce suits up and follows

      Scarecrows rachel

      Batman comes

      Scarecrow working for al ghul

      Batman takes good cop

      Crane dumping medicine into water supply to kill gotham per al ghul’s wishes

      Weaponizes bats against others

      Drives into batcave with rachel gives her antidote

      Gives antidote to rachel to give to others and replicate

      Get lost in monster, father didn’t prove to others

      Ras al ghul was good guy whole time dundundunnnnn

      Doesn’t like compassion

      Toxin from blue flowers, too good to be true trick

      Gonna destroy city, restore balance like thanos

      Burns mansion

      Prisoners out

      Bruce burning and trapped, albert rescues

      Poison Spray, control

      Rachel finds out it’s bruce

      Scarecrow mask, protection, feer device,like other masks from poison

      Darkness, cover, evil, bad etc

      Water pressure gonna blow, filed with poison

      Train keeps going maybe sacrifice

      Break pipes stop train

      Lets him run down train, die but not kill by himself

      Bruce buys company

      Batmans’ just a symbol rachel

      He himself is also mask, criminals fear his face

      Stethoscope, doctors thing, heal, rebuild house, rebuild lives/relationships

      Joker card, joker foreshadowingAlien, freak

      He’ll be like a god to them

      Mary kent=martha kent, both biblical

      Only chance, people’s only hope

      Holds info, like jesus, codex=bible/word of god,

      zod/villain/satan/egyptians, temptation to join bad side

      Boy child, first natural birth in centuries, miracle like jesus, free, heresy, religion theme

      Future with the child, like moses and israelites

      Zod banished like satan, won’t kill him but banish for eternity like god

      Will find the son like satan

      Assimilated like moses and jesus

      Using powers like jesus

      New name like moses?

      Call him names like moses

      Superman and moses has romance, not jesus

      Act of god for saving school bus

      Save enemies like jesus

      Gonna change everything when they find out real identity, 

      Afraid of what they don’t understand, bible stuff

      “did god do this to me”

      You’re the answer to are we alone in the universe, higher power ish

      sent for a reason

      Other father, other name, god

      Find reason like moses

      Fights back, unlike jesus and moses

      Non Believers in supernatural (superman’s powers, moses, jesus, god)

      Clark doesn’t know identity, other do

      Genesis chamber

      Predetermined role, slavery in egypt, something greater? Freedom?

      Dual identity

      Keep testing your limits, inspiring superhero shit

      Superman inspire kids like jesus inspire followers and moses inspire israelites

      Ideal to strive towards, race behind, join in time, accomplish wonders: freedom

      Cover tracks unlike moses and jesus

      Guardian angel

      Jonathan kent, biblical

      Wants no credit like, disappear unlike others

      “Not my dad” jesus?

      Dad’s sacrifice

      Told not to act, had to wait, world not ready

      Do you know how they’d react, lois lane paper, form following

      Found my people

      Farm in kansas, manger for jesus, israelites farm?

      Villain back, journey across ocean of stars, red sea egyptians

      Surrender himself, like jesus ish

      Hold anger

      Take leap of faith to trust zod will keep promise

      S means hope

      Can’t control

      Hand over to zod, betrayal like judas but less extreme

      Believers are important to superman, jesus stuff

      Enemy makes threats

      Enemy in other land

      Wants people to help but needs to run its course

      Destruction freed villains

      Instrument of damnation became salvation

      Krypton live again on earth, jews move to israel

      Can’t be part of it, what can be part of, 

      Father as guidance, god

      Protect loved ones

      Being persecuted

      Sense of morality

      Evolution always wins

      A good death is its own reward

      Father and zod, god and satan

      He saved us
















































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