The discussion revolves around the nature of the state, societal rules, and historical perspectives.
The Leviathan is a massive sea creature mentioned in the Old Testament.
It symbolizes the extreme force and power that can consume individuals.
Represents a metaphor for state authority and personal submission to societal rules.
Free Agreement:
Citizens voluntarily lay down arms to form a state.
Force:
In a state of nature, a powerful individual can enforce order, thereby creating a state.
This reflects Thomas Hobbes’s view that states mostly form through force rather than voluntary agreement.
Enforcement of Order:
Life without an enforcing entity is deemed worse (Hobbes' belief).
States must establish authority to avoid chaos.
Perception of Authority:
Once established, the population rationalizes the state’s authority, despite it being born from force.
A sovereign cannot reverse the social contract without consequences.
Actions taken by state leaders can be seen differently in public versus private capacity.
Example:
A president committing a crime in their personal life can be held accountable (e.g., hypothetically comparing Donald Trump’s actions).
Leaders might be accused of war crimes (e.g., Vladimir Putin), but enforcement largely depends on the political willingness of states.
The international legal system often lacks real power to enforce rulings, rendering actions symbolic.
United States as an Example:
Occasionally pursues war crime accusations against its soldiers.
Case: Abu Ghraib prison during the Iraq war, where soldiers were accused of torture and humiliation of prisoners.
The incident included horrific acts, including desecration of religious texts.
Resulted in dishonorable discharges for involved soldiers, highlighting the sovereign's role in legal ramifications.
The existence of a sovereign is essential for enforcing laws.
In a 'state of nature,' individuals cannot theoretically commit wrongs as survival means and actions depend on personal judgment.
The discussion emphasizes that without a sovereign, law enforcement on an international level remains largely ineffective.