Notes on Entering the Conversation and They Say / I Say Templates
Entering the Conversation
Writing relies on a stock of basic moves learned from reading other writers; templates capture these moves for quick use and generation of your own writing.
The book’s distinctive feature: many templates that help you enter academic thinking, civic discourse, and professional contexts.
Core premise: effective academic writing is not just about stating your ideas but about engaging in a conversation, listening to others, summarizing their views, and responding with your own ideas.
Core Idea: They Say / I Say
The central template: the “they say; I say” formula. Your argument should be a response to what others have said, not created in a vacuum.
Best writing enters a conversation by summarizing others’ views, then offering a reasoned response in kind.
Traditionally taught essays (e.g., five-paragraph essays) can be improved by explicitly placing your thesis within an ongoing conversation.
Examples show that critics, public figures, or even a family member can serve as the “they say” you respond to; the important part is that the view represents a broader audience or stake relevant to readers.
They Say / I Say: Core Moves
They say as the launching pad: present what others think, then respond with I say.
Your own thesis (I say) should always connect to a counterpoint or conversation (they say).
Why it matters: it motivates the reader, situates your argument, and clarifies the purpose of your claims.
Templates for Introducing What They Say
Standard views: “A number of sociologists have recently suggested that X’s work has several fundamental problems.”
Broad assumptions: “Americans have always believed that individual effort can triumph over circumstances.”
Conventional wisdom: “Common sense seems to dictate that …”
Declared but not always explicit: “In their recent work, Y and Z have offered harsh critiques of …”
Self-embedded “they say”: you can present a belief you once held and show how your view evolved (e.g., “I’ve always believed that museums are boring; now I rethink that view because …”).
Purpose: these templates help you identify and articulate the broader conversation you are joining.
Introducing Debates and Debatable Openings
Open with a debate: “In discussions of X, one controversial issue has been … On the one hand, A argues … On the other hand, B contends …”
Use debates to map voices and to situate your claim within a larger dispute.
Example openings show how to start with what others are saying before presenting your own stance.
Returning to the conversation: keep the “they say” in view as you develop your argument; return sentences remind readers of the motivating views.
Summarizing: The Art of Summarizing
Summarizing is central: combine fidelity to the original with a focus that serves your argument.
The Believing Game (Elbow): suspend your own beliefs to inhabit the other’s perspective while summarizing.
Balance is key: avoid over-summarizing (bare lists) and avoid under-summarizing (your voice overtakes the source).
Use vivid signal verbs to convey the author’s actions: advocates, emphasizes, complains, protests, etc.
The risk of “closest cliché syndrome”: avoid summarizing the other’s view as a cliché or misrepresenting their argument.
Alignment: your summary should fit your own central claim so that they say and I say work together, not at cross-purposes.
They say may be presented from another author or from your own past beliefs; the goal is to frame your response within that larger conversation.
Signal Verbs and Effective Summaries
Strong, precise verbs help convey the specific action of the author: advocates, argues, contends, protests, emphasizes, challenges, etc.
Distinguish between reporting (they say) and endorsing (your response). Use verbs that reflect the argumentative role of the source.
Examples: “Zinczenko argues that …; I challenge this by showing …”
Returning to the Conversation: Keeping They Say in View
Throughout your text, remind readers of the motivating “they say.”
Return sentences are useful tools to re-anchor the reader to the initial conversation as your argument develops.
The balance between summary and critique should stay aligned with your central claim.
Satiric and Mixed Responses
Satiric summaries place a critique in the summary itself to reveal weaknesses without overt editorializing.
You can mix agreement and disagreement (yes and no): e.g., you may acknowledge a point on one hand, but resist it on the other.
Mixed responses can add nuance and avoid false binaries (on the one hand … on the other hand).
Creativity and Templates
Templates do not stifle creativity; they are learning tools that help you master basic moves that underlie sophisticated writing.
Even highly creative writers rely on established forms; mastery of forms enables improvisation, not drudgery.
Templates become internalized; with practice, you can improvise and adapt them for new contexts.
Practical Takeaways for Last-Minute Review
Start with what others are saying to ground your argument in a real conversation.
Always connect your I say to a clearly identified they say; your thesis should respond to that conversation.
Use a mix of opening strategies: standard views, debates, implied views, or personal stances that you previously held.
Use strong signal verbs when summarizing or quoting; avoid bland “says” language.
Keep they say in view with return sentences to maintain coherence and purpose throughout your text.
Remember: you are entering a conversation, not making isolated claims. Your writing should reflect that dialogue and respond accordingly.
Quick Examples (stylized, for recall)
They say: “A controversial issue has been X.” I say: “My view is that Y, with supporting reasons.”
They say: “Some critics argue Z.” I say: “I agree with part of Z but contend that W for these reasons.”
They say: “On the one hand, A argues …; on the other hand, B contends …” My view is C, because D supports it.