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Notes on Entering the Conversation and They Say / I Say Templates

Entering the Conversation

  • Writing relies on a stock of basic moves learned from reading other writers; templates capture these moves for quick use and generation of your own writing.

  • The book’s distinctive feature: many templates that help you enter academic thinking, civic discourse, and professional contexts.

  • Core premise: effective academic writing is not just about stating your ideas but about engaging in a conversation, listening to others, summarizing their views, and responding with your own ideas.

Core Idea: They Say / I Say

  • The central template: the “they say; I say” formula. Your argument should be a response to what others have said, not created in a vacuum.

  • Best writing enters a conversation by summarizing others’ views, then offering a reasoned response in kind.

  • Traditionally taught essays (e.g., five-paragraph essays) can be improved by explicitly placing your thesis within an ongoing conversation.

  • Examples show that critics, public figures, or even a family member can serve as the “they say” you respond to; the important part is that the view represents a broader audience or stake relevant to readers.

They Say / I Say: Core Moves

  • They say as the launching pad: present what others think, then respond with I say.

  • Your own thesis (I say) should always connect to a counterpoint or conversation (they say).

  • Why it matters: it motivates the reader, situates your argument, and clarifies the purpose of your claims.

Templates for Introducing What They Say

  • Standard views: “A number of sociologists have recently suggested that X’s work has several fundamental problems.”

  • Broad assumptions: “Americans have always believed that individual effort can triumph over circumstances.”

  • Conventional wisdom: “Common sense seems to dictate that …”

  • Declared but not always explicit: “In their recent work, Y and Z have offered harsh critiques of …”

  • Self-embedded “they say”: you can present a belief you once held and show how your view evolved (e.g., “I’ve always believed that museums are boring; now I rethink that view because …”).

  • Purpose: these templates help you identify and articulate the broader conversation you are joining.

Introducing Debates and Debatable Openings

  • Open with a debate: “In discussions of X, one controversial issue has been … On the one hand, A argues … On the other hand, B contends …”

  • Use debates to map voices and to situate your claim within a larger dispute.

  • Example openings show how to start with what others are saying before presenting your own stance.

  • Returning to the conversation: keep the “they say” in view as you develop your argument; return sentences remind readers of the motivating views.

Summarizing: The Art of Summarizing

  • Summarizing is central: combine fidelity to the original with a focus that serves your argument.

  • The Believing Game (Elbow): suspend your own beliefs to inhabit the other’s perspective while summarizing.

  • Balance is key: avoid over-summarizing (bare lists) and avoid under-summarizing (your voice overtakes the source).

  • Use vivid signal verbs to convey the author’s actions: advocates, emphasizes, complains, protests, etc.

  • The risk of “closest cliché syndrome”: avoid summarizing the other’s view as a cliché or misrepresenting their argument.

  • Alignment: your summary should fit your own central claim so that they say and I say work together, not at cross-purposes.

  • They say may be presented from another author or from your own past beliefs; the goal is to frame your response within that larger conversation.

Signal Verbs and Effective Summaries

  • Strong, precise verbs help convey the specific action of the author: advocates, argues, contends, protests, emphasizes, challenges, etc.

  • Distinguish between reporting (they say) and endorsing (your response). Use verbs that reflect the argumentative role of the source.

  • Examples: “Zinczenko argues that …; I challenge this by showing …”

Returning to the Conversation: Keeping They Say in View

  • Throughout your text, remind readers of the motivating “they say.”

  • Return sentences are useful tools to re-anchor the reader to the initial conversation as your argument develops.

  • The balance between summary and critique should stay aligned with your central claim.

Satiric and Mixed Responses

  • Satiric summaries place a critique in the summary itself to reveal weaknesses without overt editorializing.

  • You can mix agreement and disagreement (yes and no): e.g., you may acknowledge a point on one hand, but resist it on the other.

  • Mixed responses can add nuance and avoid false binaries (on the one hand … on the other hand).

Creativity and Templates

  • Templates do not stifle creativity; they are learning tools that help you master basic moves that underlie sophisticated writing.

  • Even highly creative writers rely on established forms; mastery of forms enables improvisation, not drudgery.

  • Templates become internalized; with practice, you can improvise and adapt them for new contexts.

Practical Takeaways for Last-Minute Review

  • Start with what others are saying to ground your argument in a real conversation.

  • Always connect your I say to a clearly identified they say; your thesis should respond to that conversation.

  • Use a mix of opening strategies: standard views, debates, implied views, or personal stances that you previously held.

  • Use strong signal verbs when summarizing or quoting; avoid bland “says” language.

  • Keep they say in view with return sentences to maintain coherence and purpose throughout your text.

  • Remember: you are entering a conversation, not making isolated claims. Your writing should reflect that dialogue and respond accordingly.

Quick Examples (stylized, for recall)

  • They say: “A controversial issue has been X.” I say: “My view is that Y, with supporting reasons.”

  • They say: “Some critics argue Z.” I say: “I agree with part of Z but contend that W for these reasons.”

  • They say: “On the one hand, A argues …; on the other hand, B contends …” My view is C, because D supports it.