Settlement Discussion Notes
Initial Discussion
Russell represents the owners, and Alex is the manager.
Erica represents the plaintiff, Joe Hand Promotions .
The owners are new to business and unaware of commercial licensing for broadcasting events.
They paid for the fight, assuming it covered their situation.
Business Details
The establishment is a small, restaurant-style hookah lounge with 40 seats.
It's not a high-capacity venue.
The business is only a year old and still trying to break even.
The owners want to demonstrate that showing the fight didn't result in significant profit.
Understanding the Violation
Erica acknowledges the difference between non-willful and willful violations.
Even though the owners paid for the fight residentially instead of commercially, it's still a violation.
Johann Promotions sells commercial licenses to protect their business model.
The owners argue they couldn't find the specific commercial license option from Johann Promotions when purchasing the fight.
Terms of Service and Account Types
The violation stems from using a basic cable account and personal streaming service accounts (Netflix, Hulu, etc.) in a commercial setting.
These services' terms of service are for personal, not business, use.
Commercial accounts with cable/satellite providers are required to legally show content in a business.
These providers would block pay-per-view events and direct businesses to commercial promoters like Johann Promotions.
The issue arises because streaming services don't re-verify user status (personal vs. business) after the initial signup.
Mitigation and Future Intentions
The owners want Johann Promotions to consider their situation as a new business and offer affordable rates for future events.
They are willing to share POS data to prove their limited profits from the fight night.
They seek a long-term relationship for future broadcasts.
POS System Data
Alex will present the POS system numbers to demonstrate the actual profit made during the fight.
The owners offer full transparency and access to their POS system for verification.
Erica notes that actual access to the POS system is rare unless litigation occurs.
Commercial Fight Costs
Commercial fight licenses vary in price based on the fighters and the venue's fire code occupancy.
Davis vs. Roach fight would've cost around for a commercial license.
Popular fighters like Canelo can range from to depending on establishment size.
UFC fights have yearly subscription costs.
Profitability Analysis
Net sales during the fight were , with gross sales at .
The profit during the fight period was approximately .
The cost of the license would have negated any profit.
Subscriber Benefits and Competition
Johann Promotions' clients can charge cover fees due to their commercial licenses.
Businesses that illegally show fights create unfair competition and can be reported via Barfinder.com.
Barfinder.com lists legal establishments for viewers.
Subscribing to all fights versus ordering individual events depends on customer base and potential revenue.
Clarification of Profit Calculation
The owners clarify that they made around during the fight.
After accounting for service charges, labor, liquor, food, and hookah costs, they profited about .
They paid each for three screens to show the fight, totaling .
Future Compliance
The owners acknowledge they will obtain the necessary licenses for future fights.
They emphasize this was their first violation and that they have all other necessary licenses (hookah, food, liquor).
They mistakenly assumed the rules were similar to broadcasting FIFA World Cup matches, which doesn't require a license.
World Cup Licensing
World Cup broadcasts are handled by Integrated Sports Media.
Erica offers to provide contact information for Integrated Sports Media.
She advises contacting her to verify if an event requires a separate license.
Event Timing and Advertising
The decision to show the fight was made last minute.
The lounge is primarily a hookah lounge, and the fight was intended as additional entertainment.
Insurance Coverage
Erica asks if the owners have general liability insurance to cover potential intellectual property rights violations.
The owners currently only have minimal insurance coverage due to being a new business.
Plea for Leniency
Erica agrees to convey their situation to Johann Promotions, emphasizing their new business status and lack of intent to circumvent the law.
The owners can provide proof that this is their first business venture in the US.
They want Johann Promotions to consider their limited profit and the potential impact of a settlement, which could force them to close.
They express shock at the demand.
Settlement Authority and Litigation History
Johann Promotions previously pursued lawsuits without attempting pre-litigation settlements.
After COVID, they authorized Erica's firm to settle cases for , avoiding costly court proceedings.
Any settlement amount below requires client approval.
Desired Future Relationship
The owners reiterate their desire for a continued, lawful business relationship with Johann Promotions at an affordable price point.
Erica will meet with Johann Promotions to discuss the matter and provide a response shortly.