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00:00 all right we're back blackout blackout Edition shout out new show shout out to 19 ke I got my high level conversation hood on sure shout out to ke I rock with ke y for sure for sure always interesting conversations whenever I get a call from Key very um educated on a variety of different topics so uh he call you and start laughing you know he about to drop something like hey brother how you doing I'm like oh [ __ ] okay get a notepad let me get a notepad all right I'm ready oh man so uh first and foremost how you

00:37 doing bro I'm good brother how are you ready uh to upset the internet a little bit today so for sure we gotta we gotta do it it's it's the it's the only way uh we got a we got a legend in the game coming on Mr Damon Dash um man change the game change the game when it comes to our culture and music but we'll talk about um him a little later on but first I wanted to just kind of Welcome everybody back to blackout this is probably the most dangerous show on the internet currently in existence it's um a show that we

01:13 developed because we wanted a platform to speak freely unfiltered uncut um yes this is this comes on at 10 o'clock hour so that's done for a reason it's not suitable for children it's not suitable for children it's not suitable for sensitive of men um it's one of these things right where you know uh take everything um with precaution as far as advice but I will tell you this we may tell you a joke but we'll never tell you a lie blackout is just like any other thing that we put out is a lot of

01:47 Education in between jokes um and if you listen hard enough then uh you can learn and uh pick up some real game so um yeah this is blackout and uh we about to black out we about to black out these are the conversations you have to have after you have achieved success so thank you'all for tuning in every week putting comments uh what you may want us to talk about tonight and let's get to it all right so we about to bring the Bro in in a minute but first let me ask you this let's start with this because I saw um I

02:18 believe it was who posted this what comedian posted this um du probably yeah little duv this is like the second time we referenc little Duvall's tweets we got we gotta get him up here actually shout out to Duvall we got to get him up here um now I'm thinking about it he he said something as far as uh he didn't want a boss babe right boss chick is something that he doesn't prefer he said having money is not a turn on for men like a a woman that has money is not it's not a turn on he actually said it shouldn't be

02:49 unless she trying to finesse okay so would you rather a boss babe or a stay at home um Mom or a tweener what I call a tweener is somebody that is a secretary um who has an income right not just staying at home all day but is not you know the CEO of Walmart either right like you know you have the um you have retail right shout out to all the retail women out there working in Sachs and and um norstrom sapphires Sapp and you have um secretaries um work in dental offices or work for financial advisor yeah um call centers occupations still

03:47 exist yeah I think India yeah India Bangladesh so where where do you where do you fit what's your sweet spot um I ideally probably tweener like you have to have a passion or something that you love but like if I run into somebody and they're like hey I'm a boss chick I work all day grind like that's not attractive like I have my own bag a big Satchel I'm cool I'm happy that you're doing whatever you want to but sometimes like that energy can be a lot too masculine for my liking um I've done other version stay

04:21 at home they don't do anything interesting to say the least you got to do something in some way so yeah in between I said it before like I I don't think a woman should have to leave the castle to go work for someone else's so do something in my business or have something going on but I I don't no I don't want like a boss [ __ ] see I've dealt with that Mike well Mike was here the love chick was a boss babe who some of y'all be boss bab and then you getting financed by dope boy L meech little me I

04:56 can't take my cousin groceries in sh me you know mean so yeah hey hey I'mma listen we uncovered the bone Scandal last week we gonna uncover the dope boy financing your ebook business come on how you get a McLaren off selling eBooks for 19 bucks it's difficult so um I would say this I would [Music] definitely yeah I what's ideal well you know I never want to knock I never I never knocked the hustle don't do this politically correct with me no no I don't knock anybody's hustle if you

05:32 choose to build an Empire I'll support you come invest [ __ ] that what's the real come on come to invest Fest now what I'm saying is that I don't I don't I don't I want to be careful with my words because I never knock a hustle and there's a lot of women out here I get in trouble there's a lot of women out here that's get into a real bag on the entrepreneurial side so I respect it and I salute them like that's amazing I said when I was a financial advisor most of my clients were women so I appreciate

06:01 the women that's out here getting to a bag and providing for themselves for their family like salute that's amazing now with that I'm about to dirty mat you clearly beat me on Love is Blind my dumb ass come out no [ __ ] I don't want you to work me I'm clean it up by by season two oh I'mma call Cliff or whoever I need yes put so I I will say this though like you know I respect it um but I think sometimes with a a alpha entrepreneurial mindset male or female there's a mindset that goes in that's kind of difficult to

06:45 to to be right so I feel like for a woman me personally me personally it would be difficult for me to be with a super um aggressive when it comes to like you know B like I'm know I just that's something that I would probably not um mesh well with too yeah yeah for me I I would appreciate more of a a softer Vibe um and like you said you know fortunately you know um I was able to you know make a dollar make a dollar out out of this situation so I'm I'm okay right like I don't have to I'm not

07:31 on the uh poverty line so I could I don't necessarily have to you know try to look at a woman's income as something that I want to you know in my financial situation of course money is always beneficial right but I'm not looking at that that's not my my go-to I think that's what he was saying like that's not his goto is like oh you got on and I think that's that's the Bigg issue because a lot of times people have always said like yo she got a good job she got a good career um I never cared

08:04 about that right I think that's what he's saying I never looked at a woman as like okay a good job is going to turn me on not not to say that you shouldn't have a good job but how does that benefit me this is how I look at it how how are you having a good job benefiting me nine times family you're not you're gonna be busy all the time you not be available whether it's corporate or entrepreneurship you're gonna be focused fully on that you're not going to be able to travel whenever you want so

08:37 what's the oh that's the headache when they can't go and then they don't want you to be with the joints that's out there I can't place a trade with you and then not place a trade nowhere oh my God okay Place trade these are just jokes written by 85 south 19 keys and little Duvall yes so yeah me you know I never um I never looked at like that and I never really uh app actually the one I I I I um talked to a doctor one time biggest worst occupation in the world terrible I never thre that nurses

09:15 shout out to the nurses but boy big red flag never do that again like like who wants to be with somebody that's always studying you got to work at 3 o'clock in the morning you it's I'm good I'm super cool on that so yeah my sweet my sweet spot is the tweeners that's out here um I'm what if with a soft approach like a j EO approach but they sell real estate in Woodland Hills or somewhere in Woodland Hills that's cool that's cool too you know it's just um it's uh it's a

09:49 certain level of um you know availability um Vibe temperament I just feel like when you're in business you you automatically your brain is triggered a certain way I know that because I'm in business right in yeah yeah it's Doggy Dog yeah it's doggy dog world so I just me personally I am more um prone to people that are more good energy free flowing less stressed like let's just take let's just take the trip and and not worry about it and and I don't want to have to hear about your clients or you know your

10:27 your your boss is giving you a deadline to do this by I got enough stress in my own life business yeah don't worry about your zoom while we in the Bahamas or or let's be business partners see that that's the perfect so let's let's do this let let's do the let's do the I'll invest in your business I I need a business plan absolutely I need a business plan I'm not just giving somebody $10,000 and just you know good luck I need a business plan but if it's a solid if it's a solid business let's talk about

11:01 let's talk about Equity situation and um let's see how I can get some money out of it but you GNA take equity in your business partner's business I mean in your relationship's business if I put money in I'm on the same Vibe hey I'm with Diddy on that I need 59% but it gets it gets awward it gets awkward if you break up though that's the only thing does it really yes send my money and I'll tell keep telling everybody how great you are they're not they're not gonna give access to the books they're gonna start

11:31 changing passwords on you oh gets awkward yeah it can get crazy turn the location off turn the location off but hey without further Ado we warmed it up and now we got our guest in the building so let's bring him up all right I'm I'm loving how you're evolving and putting so much money into production you gotta listen to the mentors right broke don't fix it if it ain't broke don't fix it low overhead is low overhead to yeah I see I see you know well you know for me um I uh I like to be inspired you know it's important

12:22 for me to dream clearly and I can't do it from a little tiny desk in a small office I have to dream big you know what I mean so everything has to be aspirational around me but that could be an issue that I have I don't really look at cost effective when it comes to dreams I just want to make sure that I always have scale and that I'm constantly evolving I've never really looked at saving money and you know either way you're gonna fight so you might as well fight in luxury but D let me let me ask you that's a good way to

12:52 start you said this numerous times you don't believe in saving money you put your money in the streets so we you obviously know our background right we're financial literacy this goes against everything this goes against everything that we talk about no you guys are I would look at y'all like yall report about financial stuff that's going on First and you also talk about the businesses that you're in but there's so many ways to do businesses like there's a perspective of an entrepreneur from a Founder there's a

13:21 perspective of an entrepreneur that buys companies in distress there's so many different ways to pull a skin a business cat y'all do the way way more or less you know you don't use your own money we do we only use we only we only use our own that's what we not gonna do fight my bad I never heard y'all say that though but I it's my bad my bad okay hear a lot of traditional things listen I'm I'm super anti- deal that was me a shot these biggest F I don't want no [ __ ] ads on care he like bro no we

14:02 we selfed selfed well yall hang out with a lot of billionaires and a lot of them don't use their own money so I thought maybe you were practicing their same model so the people I see you would I think you know approach it that way but maybe that's the reason why maybe that's the reason why they don't offer you their Studios for free like me is that a bad thing no not to use your own because we we've only used our own money it's about being Savvy enough to raise it you know what I mean so the

14:31 thing about from my observation of people that do raise money like someone we know in common like the Keenan or something you know what they say is it's it's a it's a game of mar of of odds it's it's it's three successful meetings out of every 70 so it might mean someone has to tell you no 67 times you know me I'm not good with no one time you know what I mean so and and and that's because of the PTSD that I have of shopping major artists like uh J or Kanye literally and people telling me no

15:04 and if I would have listened to them then I would have potentially missed out on a lot of things you know what I'm saying so I'm not listening to people telling me no that just aren't cooler than me and I'm not asking people to give me something pause that's for people that's not cooler than me and I'd rather I'd rather work I'd rather fight but to me it's more of a fight to be around people you don't like people that smell funny people that are just not the type of taste that you want to be around

15:37 you know that's why I'm in Winter Haven I don't want to be around everybody you know what I'm saying on the media side though the media landscape is changing podcasting is damn near fell apart I know you for for for many people it has I didn't know I never really got into the podcast game I was just on people's podast game you know what I mean but now that I have well now that I have my own platform you know it just makes sense to leverage whatever's going on in the media to something that you really own but but

16:14 for you at what point wins the Big Exit to back to shotti's point I know you reinvest everything but at any point do you think you would just sell off one of the businesses right off into the sunset or I'm selling off my interest in Reasonable Doubt so you know if I can get a certain amount of money for that you know again I was trying to you know sell it at auction as an nft two years ago I was trying to get 20 30 million and that's what was going to fund the rest of my companies and then I had to even be

16:45 strategic about C this is a business show people that are here should understand this yeah so I'm the CEO of Rockefeller Inc right but if someone else pretends they're the CEO of Rockefeller Inc to sue somebody on behalf of the company correct so Jay and bigs got Jay said he's the CEO of Rockefeller Inc he hires his own lawyers but now Rockefeller Inc is paying those lawyers so in essence now he's accusing me of doing something that I didn't do meaning trying to sell uh a complete the a whole interest everybody's interest

17:24 when I was only trying to sell mine for the sole purpose of trying to change bylaws but for making um phony bylaws to say that we collectively have to agree if someone wants to sell and the message they sent out is that if you try to buy this whoever buys it you're G to get a lwuit so it became a toxic asset yeah you understand what I mean so what I had to do was take a judgment let them go chase it but now I get to go to a public auction they can't say [ __ ] whatever I make 800,000 got to go to them but if

17:56 I'm trying to sell it for 10 million 20 million that's how much it that's owned by me J and bigs I wanted

19:02 to sell my one-third as an nft you know Innovative two three years ago while it was popping and they did a lawsuit saying I tried not tried they said I put the whole thing on the blockchain which was a lie but only yeah to buy waters you know what bylaws are when you have a company right all company we did it when we were young I have I had no bylaws so Jay called the meeting didn't show up to it bigs and them voted bylaws to be that in order to sell it we all got to agree which means if somebody bought it they

19:35 could always say the bylaws because I had a judgment I knew this [ __ ] paus Chris Brown and Josh Weber pause and Muddy Waters whatever not not Chris Brown not Chris Brown the singer that's the singer lawyer haven't you been keeping up with no I'm saying for the public for the audience I just went through four not lawsuits trials with the same law for different cases you understand what I'm saying four trials straight trials a trial gonna cost you at least 500 a pop that's like you know two million right

20:10 there now think about it if you go to four trials and what I lost was defamation because these guys trigger me they steal my [ __ ] then when I you know you think this freedom of speech it's really not it's not I keep saying it no it's not yeah so think about Donald Trump just got hit for defamation like 90 80 million they were trying to hit pause me like that four lawsuits collectively 8 900,000 all together that's legal fees that's a joke that's a big loss for them 900,000 only hurts

20:39 when you don't have no money you understand when you got 20 ask anyone that went through a if if Donald Trump would have got hit for two million he' have been laughing you understand what I mean yeah so to me it was nothing I'm like I don't give a [ __ ] about 800,000 but y'all G if you want my the money go get it from Reasonable Doubt because they got the money you understand so I knew either child support was gonna go get it or a creditor or someone I had a judgment with that's a [ __ ] was

21:06 going to go get it and they went and did it and what the judge said was those bylaws that y'all tried to make in 2021 are [ __ ] you can't tell that man he can't sell his personal property especially if he needs to pay a bill so it's ordered to public auction and a a million or 800 whatever with interest whatever that will go to them but the rest I ke so hopefully people see it the way I see it and the way Jay saw it and think cuz you know if I could get some real real coin for it I'd be happy I'd be laughing but

21:40 if not at least I'm GNA be Innovative and I'm gonna try that's part of the thrill of being an entrepreneur so where where did the thing come that Camron and Ma is gonna buy it I didn't say they didn't buy it allegedly they you know I have the option you know it might not be a bad thing I don't know if they I just don't know if they want to deal with that [ __ ] I'm like you don't want that man you know what I mean but they G to play you know I mean like they want to have fun just

22:09 the kind of fun we'd be having and [ __ ] they like to have fun like that and I'm with it and those are my brothers and you know I'm glad to see them doing so well and they figured it out you know the game is the game is branded ad you know that's the game and but isn't well well tell me more about about that real really quick about Brandon ads when you put a brand in your content or branded content I might be saying the verbage wrong so for me I wouldn't say that everybody sees me from my platforms I go

22:43 viral on other people's platform to an Advertiser they don't give a [ __ ] what platform it comes from as long as eyeball sees it so my reach I would say every time I put something out would be too many two million engagements no matter what but not from me I might get 100,000 but on somebody else's joint they might get 250 and I see people get millions collectively that's what I consider my reach so for example the dash diabetes Network the Branded the Branded content was I did the content about diabetes I I

23:16 would use their stuff and that content lives forever it's not a commercial it's content with with the brands in it gotcha so so you know again I'm the thing about getting into a new business is learning the business and like you said media changes every day from the adtech to but if you don't have sales and really understand that game then you're not gonna have a television network and you think people gonna subscribe they really not if it's not free all right so here's you know what

23:45 Dan you you're you're you're actually a good guy right you're a good guy I want to give you your flowers man you've always been very good to us you provided Us free information you provided us your studio you've provided us resource over over the course of time you provide us information a little aggressive with the way that you speak but I'm able to you know that's my vibe I'm but I'm able to navigate that but I appreciate that's sometimes he's a high yellow [ __ ]

24:14 sometimes but I appreciate I appreciate fact that I think you're you're a good guy right I'm going somewh with this and we have a big audience and um I think that I want to give you an opportunity to kind of because there's a narrative out there that you have um been very dysfunctional in the business World The Narrative is that you're so Steve Stout said this right but I heard other people say this that you're very bright you're very intelligent but I'm paraphrasing you're dysfunctional in

24:46 business environments and become toxic he said this recently on Shannon sharp show so that's a narrative that I've heard from Steve Stout Le wait wait all the people that have this narrative are the people that are are actually robbing the culture that have come out to you know the the the the word culture V was coined from leor Steve Stout and a couple of others in that period of time these are people like Steve Stout's a guy that because he wanted to be Jay-Z's partner he had to like did you see the interview that

25:24 he did with un I mean that um Vlad did with un and and un was like cuz again out when yeah and he said I there's a conspiracy to put Damon out of business now you have to think about how could I be dysfunctional if everyone I put in business is very doing pretty well it wasn't because they left me yeah and how many different kind of businesses so it's just the fluke that I put Rachel Roy on that I put Lee Daniels on that I put Kevin Hart on that I put Kanye on camerron on like I could go on and on

25:59 you know does that sound like dysfunction to you but of course they're going to try to make someone that's really talented that really is about respecting the art look dysfunctional even though they made so much even for you to ask me that question would be saying that you've been mind [ __ ] pause like tell me an artist that says that that says what no I'm I'm giving you an opportunity I'm giving you OPP OPP I'm asking you to give an opportunity for free thinking you tell me one artist that says that my business

26:36 acement is dysfunctional an artist I don't I don't know I'm I don't know everyone you Nam was like so leor invented the 360 and I'm against it so of course he's gonna say that this other dude he's the one that they used to be telling me I would Steve used to tell people I was crazy because I told people to be independent he called me and said sorry because his business model and probably because he and again I don't know was allegedly whatever had to raise some money and got some money it's probably a hustle for

27:13 but it's it's it's it's now he's preaching every single thing that I've been preaching for 20 years yeah so imagine having Jay-Z Leo Cohen and Steve Stout and other people that I don't know completely admitting openly that they've conspired to get you out of business is that not what UNS said yeah um but how could you trust wait wait how could you trust anything Steve stout or leor says based on their past like wouldn't wouldn't it make sense that they would say like if somebody like for me dudes

27:47 that don't want me to fool around with their girls they start saying lies and [ __ ] about me in front of them no I hate oh so they business dirty Mackin got you but do you think do you think wait wait wait wait wait wait wait for me for him to be saying that publicly about my business that has nothing to do with him I had no business don't you think that's trying to put some degree of a narrative and make me have a degree of a reputation but did I not send you a uh a video of me doing country music

28:18 with all my cowboy [ __ ] on from my Ranch two years ago yes or no Rashad yes you did yes you did two years later everybody has cowboy and doing could am I in the future or are people copying all how can I it's hard being an innovator though your hard being an innovator wait wait it's hard being an innovator with people conspiring against you to take your ideas and take the credit by saying things like you just said none of those people should be talking about especially Steve I did no business with him unless you know what

28:54 he has to gain from talking bad about me he gets to do business with JZ see this is what they sold Jay-Z and y'all keep asking me why I keep talking y it's my history y'all keep asking about him but I'mma talk about it it don't matter because this is the only way that I could actually defend myself at this point yeah because they've already admitted they conspire against me you understand what I'm saying they've already admitted it so what the [ __ ] am I supposed to do can you imagine being

29:22 an innovator and having three or four people lying on you and doing anything they can to make your name look bad just so they can get the credit for what you do and now you look at everything I've done look at everything they doing and ask me if if people are not copying me and I do it with my own money these people have the ability to raise and use other people's money because they'll give it I'm not going to give my culture and a cultural idea to somebody else's culture for them to exploit just because

29:51 they got the bread yeah you understand what I'm saying like I'm not GNA do that I'm not that's why I didn't put Pon full on another Channel a network because I'm going to break my own network I have too many franchises I'm not going to have another culture telling me what to do about an experience that's more actual to me than them so of course they're going to paint a picture how you think Jesus got hung up on the cross they convinced somebody and his name's Yoshua Joshua got hung up on the cross

30:21 allegedly because somebody said he was a bad guy right it wrong yeah true and paraph paraphrasing the story yeah condensing it pretty much yeah shorter shorter version yes yeah but I think Rashad was gonna bring something delivery what saying D my here D here's my thing go thing in self-reflection do you feel that sometimes your delivery could because like I said I understand it right I understand it I'm familiar with the way that you talk even without knowing you so I don't I don't take personally a lot of people no no no

31:01 question question question question Rashad you've known me for a good am before you had a logo you've known me right your first your you know when you first got every second you met me what have I tried to do but anything but help you I said you're good I said that incredibly helpful can I can I finish yes let me I'm not asking for your validation I'm I'm talking about logic so the things that you hear about me you've never seen and you've been around me more than them correct I've been around you a lot y

31:42 froze y froze can you hear me can you hear us I can hear yeah okay yeah I think we still good we still good on all right your your personal experience with me has not been anything that you've heard ask this the way that I've given you information would you want me to do it different can I can I say can I speak I speak I gotta speak I gotta be able to communicate my thoughts here I every time you talk this [ __ ] cuts out you must be saying some [ __ ] and [Laughter] I'm I'm I'm a little I'm a little bit

32:23 more I think I'm very malmed person and I have no man see you're giving no no stop stop not my come the same got let my finish I don't want to hear M high yellow [ __ ] right high yellow [ __ ] go ahead I'm trying to say that I think I think that my life experiences my temperament my admiration and respect for you it it I'm a different type of person I don't take things personal I could I could listen to you I but I think every single depending on your background depending on how you was

33:02 raised depending on your temperament you might some things might be triggering to some people I bother you yeah yeah you yes Dam yes he my cousin I swear yo do you know anybody else that's friends with you that has a bad experience with me I don't know anybody that had a bad experience with you that I know personally no but don't think you're some special guy because I don't yell at you don't yell at people that's not me not so that's what that's what I'm trying to get Dan that's what this is

33:35 what I'm trying to get you trying to say it's a false narrative that this is this is important okay but I need you to say it of course I'mma say it you should say it but I don't know if it's a false narrative or not you do know it's a false narrative you been around me I've seen you scream before you know it's a false narrative you know I don't go around flipping on people I'm the coolest [ __ ] you know okay so did we getting somewhere now think think about must you got to

34:00 realize something you know what it looked like to be in your 20s doing what I was doing first generation I can only imagine yo Legend social media my God terorist terrist you don't even know I you why you think they still talking about me 20 years later [ __ ] I do it to deatha and still doing it I'm 52 years old and I'm just still having look at this I just making sure I'm directing doing interviews at the same time how the [ __ ] I have my own television network how could I be doing something

34:35 wrong and I didn't raise a dollar who you know that did that name one but you do have to realize I'm from your network and and and look I'm G say this right now I taught z uh name one I'm not gonna do that but anyone that you even know that's in this game I Tau him that's that that that trust me yeah I was doing streaming services before netf when Netflix had um VHS yeah I've been I always have to wait for industry to catch up Ian question in The Art of War though because I'm from your tribe I'm with the

35:18 [ __ ] it blow it up get right to Art of War double everybody we yo in every single Executives office that you go to they got that book The Art of War it's so are they Devils because they're vultures or because they're Devils it's because the Art of War is is for cheaters it's about [ __ ] that when I when I I read The Art of War just to see what those dumbass [ __ ] was gonna do you have to know same laws yeah [ __ ] with your rep one of the main things is [ __ ] with your reputation correct

35:49 absolutely yep so what do they trying to do why again why would he get on listen I must be hot if 20 years later and in the middle of an interview somebody got to talk about what I did 20 years ago that they have [ __ ] to do with them that means from them observing they want to be me remember I retired at 35 I'm 52 right [Music] now think about3 year old or yeah what you was doing like your 20s what your most [ __ ] was children or in jail or whatever I came from everything dysfunctional family mother died diabetes and [ __ ]

36:28 first generation breaking a social class by the time I was 19 with no blueprint you think that looked like yeah freestyling and then [ __ ] got the nerve to say I could have did it wrong I'm like [ __ ] I was a kid what are you talking about look what I did look what I do why what you should be saying yo you was amazing I can't believe you dealt with all that [ __ ] at that age like that without going I don't know how you did it yeah do do you um that's why that's why they can't get over it y'

37:02 ain't gonna never be me that's what's not going to happen not y'all but those that want to that are like trying to act like it like even the stuff I go to court for be everyone always tries to steal my work but if you know that should you should you not give him ammunition to continue to steal but if you know that if you know that should you continue to give people the ammunition to steal like I've said this publicly I haven't been around this [ __ ] in 20 years he ain't what ammunition I'm

37:32 giving him I'mma [ __ ] win is hate is Everlasting you know that what I'm saying is I'm not give what ammunition am I giving somebody just hear me out real quick I rock with you I [ __ ] with you I'm from I'm from the same tribe as you right but my thing is if you know people are going to steal your ideas and I've said it plenty of times that same talk you gave at breakfast club when Gary ve say said it they ate that [ __ ] up like it was Jesus and you was on entrepreneur wave way before Gary shout to Gary dck Mike

38:01 everybody but my thing is if you know they're pain in the narrative to defame you to then steal why not and I think this is what Rashad was getting to why not be nicer to alleviate the threat of more stealing happening why do you keep saying I'm not nice because I yelled at Leo you got to stop saying that you brainwashed who am I not nice to hey I not nice to you yeah you been incredible even the couple times I met you he hey I'm from I'm from East Chicago Indiana Gary and Eddie I rock with you

38:35 ever forever so what thank you but what I'm asking you is why do you think I'm not being nice I think I yeah because listen it only takes yo bro it only takes three or four people to do that but even even rash and I've had this conversation me and Rashad have had some heated discussions but at some point I had to make the decision like am I going to [ __ ] up the relationship over arguing over a point and we trying to get to the same goal or will I trying the people the people I'm arguing with are trying to get to the

39:11 goal of exploiting artists the people I yell at I yell at or exploiting artists why do I yell at leor not because of what he did with me even though he did some [ __ ] I don't like the way he treats my people I don't like the way Steve Stout treats my people people you know I'm defending us I'm not you're telling me be nice to my op I'm nice to the people that a't my Ops um okay let's talk about this let's talk I want you to tell me when I have I just need you to tell me when I haven't

39:40 been nice to someone that doesn't deserve it it's not it's not a thing of nice I think that like I said from I I think that it could be a delivery thing to somebody that they got bothered to the extent that they no no no no let me just tell you something I'm a Founder um and you can't tell somebody that did all those things to do it different if I wouldn't have done it the way I did it there would be no Jay-Z I'mma say this and you ask Jay-Z anytime there would be no JayZ as a rapper if it wasn't for me he wasn't

40:16 trying to do it he wasn't trying to rap no he was trying he he he was rapping with jazz he had stopped completely he was hustling and I I'm from the Midwest listen when you put your arm around Kanye yeah like it was different just listen to me it would have been a Kanye but I did you know make sure he was all right but with Jay no I shop Jay no no I gotta give you credit for that Chicago won't rocking with Kanye like that until you put your arm around him oh okay let's be real all right so that's my point like certain people

40:53 especially him he wasn't going to start a record company no one was signing him so okay this everyone that's around him now everyone around him now told me he was whack so so you this is this is helpful for me to even I'm learning I don't know who's you know what I'm talking about the Leo cohens and the Steve Stouts I don't know who's around him but those people saying it Leo's the same person that tried to say yo you guys are cold before we did street is watching I'm not [ __ ] with Jay no

41:21 more [ __ ] you I'll do streeters watching myself then we do hard night life he turns into this niggaas ball sacks it's [ __ ] crazy so you saying thatu jump when they have when they have to you got remember something I left the music industry to do fashion I didn't want to do it no more I still don't want to do it I just put out records because I need music in my movies so this is helpful for me to even get a better picture you're saying essentially you have to be this aggressive person because that is

41:50 the only reason why it even worked out to begin with because I guess Jay was doing his thing hustling you had to be super aggressive to convince him to be a rapper and super aggressive to convince the labels to take you guys serious so serious to become our own label but that's what I'm saying so he's like your temperament it's like a butterfly effect right if you would have Chang list if I wasn't game Dash there would be no Rockefeller was there's no Rock because the Bulldog was good when it was working

42:20 until nobody I dare anybody anybody that was there anybody that was there to say that there would be Rockefeller without me I dare anybody that was there to say that anybody that was there to tell me that Rockefeller didn't come from the whole thing didn't come from me fighting to make that happen that's why I'm that's why yall still talking about me but then sometimes not happened let me ask you this why is it that after I left Rockefeller there is no more Rockefeller is there no there's not right after I

42:55 left whoa whoa whoa right after I left Rock there is no rockware you know it's you got sold off right yeah because and you know I'm not tell you it right now and this sitting the Slick [ __ ] that [ __ ] did for that I heard oh all right let's talk about what you're doing now man you got you got a network that you you're very passionate about every time I talk to you talk about this network so obviously this is the number one thing that's on your mind right now right what what makes you want

43:21 to start something that is a TV network right um how does that thought process come into your mind like I said most people are going away from TV business um cutting back people are firing people left and right what makes you want to dive into that business where do what do you see in that in that business that you think is is a gym well on the Artistry level the freedom to be artistic and get paid full on my own and not have to ask but on another level anything digitally it wasn't about the television network it's

43:54 about streaming service now which is with the new television network but any thing that you can get aggregate people you get data so if you look at the television network that's just the place where I could sell my clothes I can sell my comic books I can sell my sneakers I can sell my music I can sell my toyss I can sell my vitamins I can sell my liquor I can sell my weed I could sell everything even down to this comic book I made this I'mma tell the comic book and then I'mma make the movie I have the

44:22 music the name this is called Dead weight we got we wrote this because you gotta remember I'm not really a businessman I'm severely cre like let me ask you a question who do you know that's a businessman that does the [ __ ] I do but also directs movies action movies makes rock and roll albums writes books does magazines I'm just creative and artistic and a television network is where I can showcase all of those things it's a commer commercial but my true creativity on all verticals and everything can be sold and tracked

44:55 so you know I love music so make music I love movies so I make movies I love clothes so I make clothes everything I love I make down to the jury you see the OSG joint that I designed yep but here's the thing I really designed it who do you know actually does the fonts and actually does the logos not to say I did it like that but you know I told people what to do I'm a creative agency as but I don't creative Agency for nobody else I do it for who do you know who do you know without raising a dollar mix book

45:28 makes glasses makes sneakers has a television network didn't license a [ __ ] thing directed damn near everything on there puts up directs a movie puts it in theaters uh Prince of Detroit independently and then puts it on his own streaming service independently I'm a conglomerate I'm a boutique conglomerate self-funded now because my family owns 100% I can dilute now but I'll dilute on my terms so if you look at with the industry like you know it depends on whatever you you want to look at it uh what a calculation is

46:01 but to me every download is worth $100 I already got 50,000 downloads that's 50 million but I already put up 20 but I already know somebody want to be my partner I need 20 million right now but if it's 100,000 people if you want to be my partner I'mma need 50 but I'm not I don't want to pay the bills no more you have to have more distribution money for growth and all that so I start a business before I dilute most people start by diluting because they raised money for then it with 10% for and they only got five

46:32 years to bleed out you know what I'm saying I just don't do it I I know business so well that I'm doing it with the tied up you understand beefing with no money no fun you know what I'm saying like even down you got think about it even down to my accountant Barry clber he robbed me man y'all went to court over it already huh y'all went to court over it already no I ain't go to I D allegedly I'm just trying to prevent from theing so allegedly yeah yeah yeah no no I'm saying this because my personal

47:06 experience he robbed me he stole my money and and and and and I paid him a lot of money a year to do my taxes and what he did was he did made me he did The Rock appella deal and took a million dollars behind my back so he pushed me to do the deal so he could commission and didn't even tell me until after you understand what I'm saying that really happened fees behind the scenes and points behind the scenes is real yep if you paying somebody three or 400,000 a year to do your taxes how could you owe taxes oh he he didn't pay your taxes no

47:39 that's like the fact Harvey it happens a lot so how does this how does this happen how doesen Steve they don't tell you you don't know you think your [ __ ] is handled and all a sudden you get a letter you they don't tell you don't know they got access they got they got access to your bank account it's not yeah it's it didn't like they didn't drain my bank account he didn't pay my taxes so he didn't file correctly you understand what I'm saying Harvest did the same [ __ ] like yo three

48:13 accountants I said two three accountants did that to me told me they filed my [ __ ] and didn't file it every day you walk out the door somebody's trying to rob you every day and the thing about it is let accountant doesn't do your taxes you're accountable not the accountant if a lawyer gives you bad advice you're accountable not the lawyer if you don't know the law you're going to jail regardless and you the funny [ __ ] is if you don't know how to have money you can go to jail if you

48:42 don't carry it right that's a fact that's so why do you think point they set you up like yo we ain't gonna teach you how to make have money so just in case you do I how the [ __ ] was I supposed to know I had to pay 50 or 40% taxes over $100,000 no how [ __ ] I'm supposed to know about capital gains and Trust none of y'all told me about it especially back then oh my God yeah like we gonna keep you broke because if you make the money we ain't gonna teach you how to keep it yeah so we can get it

49:12 back from you and go you'll go to jail yeah yeah and have to pay more money I bet you every single actor actress creative that went to jail for tax evasion did not realize that they were evading taxes and their lawyer and their accountants jamed him up well that that like I said that's the Fat Joe that's what happened with Fat Joe he ended up going to jail because his accountant was robbing him and he didn't pay taxes but he didn't pay taxes because he didn't not like he purposely didn't do it his accountant didn't pay

49:41 and then he still had to pay the taxes when he got out of jail and he had the penalty on top of that and you know what happens when it gets to that point you're broke so you can't pay for good legal so the reason why [ __ ] is getting over because I don't have a million dollars a year to put into [ __ ] lawyers I just don't yeah that cost and that's the reason why this [ __ ] PA Chris Brown tried to had five four trials because he was trying to drain my pockets y it's a strategy that people use yeah you know they if

50:09 you if you don't go to court you sometimes don't know how to play the game these [ __ ] go to court so much they know exactly what I'mma do to get myself jamed up but it always works out because now that [ __ ] works for me pause you feel me how did you get him to work for you wait what he's the one that because of the Judgment made the judge look at the bylaws and say nah those bylaws are he went back and forth with the judge about 16 different times at least $500,000 worth of uh legal fees

50:41 you know what I mean that would have been what I had to do so he did the work for me IID have had to spend a million dollars to prove that Jay is lying let me ask you a question have you ever heard of Jay-Z being the CEO of Rockefeller records yes when I thought it was I thought it was three CEOs I thought it was you bigs and there's no triple CEO you always know me to be that's just a mistake yeah yeah can have three CEOs you never heard who you ever wait wait I'm the one that made the word term CEO

51:14 famous nobody even knew who the CEO was trust me when have you known Jay to be the CEO of Rockefeller we all owned it as partners he was the rapper at Rockefeller records what was his tit what was his title supposed to be CFO rapper J's title was raer was in 96 when Buster Rhymes Dro and Pac died Jay was known as an artist shout the ho J Jay was always came in as a business person he always represented himself stop it stop it when we were doing Rockefeller he was not known to do any business it was all me and he never came to the

51:53 office to do any business I'm saying person the Persona that he gave out was never that that was and again we talking about this [ __ ] again but the reason why he told me that he did what he did is because I want to be known as a businessman but you get all the credit for it and I'm like I'm [ __ ] business yeah but you know Steve stop was prepared to be a silent guy hey nicholette roll up yeah and that silent partner is cold word to get [ __ ] yeah yeah yeah he was known to be a silent guy so Jake could take the credit for it

52:25 but either way I don't know what he doing now care what he doing now but all I'm saying is the things that I worked hard for and created because he was the one that can leverage celebrity to the product which is exactly what I taught them leverage your celebrity to your own product don't leverage your celebrity to somebody else's we could own them and they dealt with the celebrity period but I wasn't trying to deal with them I was leaving I'm telling you I never wanted to be around them it wasn't them that

52:52 left me I left I left I quit like y Guess The Narrative be so funny but the funny thing is how people believe them people are so dumb it's so funny but the media has trained people to be dumb hey it's a narrative but you also have to remember opinions can be especially digitally I already know that there's some really heavy celebrities that pretend they're other people and leave comments so they don't look like [ __ ] like I can see it I have ad technology now so I can see the ghost accounts so many of that like I can see

53:27 them looking on my I'm like yo why don't y'all just leave me the [ __ ] alone why y'all there must be a reason why everybody keeps bringing my name up man I I got a personal question for you it's something that we're dealing with now scale who's run the world huh no that conversation people in the world are people that I usually put on yeah and and I wanted to ask you that so as you scale because I always say innovators get arrows in their back via betrayal how do you identify like who to

53:57 put on and who to help versus helping and then they turn their back on you like Kanye is Kanye now I remember when through the Y got played on Power 92 shout Power 92 detraction and Kanye was not [ __ ] with him like that at that time he was getting chased by payroll for selling other beats to blueprint I remember when you put your arm around him and campaign heavy in the midwest form but how do you identify who the help cuz even the people that I've helped and gave the most money to most opportunity they've turned their back on me so from

54:30 your perspective now being 52 what would you do different in those that you choose or select to help and how would you structure the deals differently to not get [ __ ] over I work with me now so instead of making money off someone else's talent I make money off my own and I work for my family I don't work for strangers so I'm I'm an employee of a I'm the employee for this company it's my family's business you understand what I'm saying and if you see I started to do work like you

55:02 know I hustle I'm in love for a living so I hustle with my girl so she does her children's books I make my music and my movies and collectively that's why and and I have a TV show calling Love For What till you see it is fly so before we some game what do you think people are doing wrong as far as this is It's the E the Creator economy right everybody's a content creator but very few people are are making any money so I have a theory this is becoming like the new like you know they used to have struggling

55:31 artists the original struggling artist was painters the next struggling artists was musicians the the third iteration of struggling artists are content creators it's the wor it's the same thing happen in generational differ so but what's what's the what's the question what can they do what can they do differently what are they doing wrong froze can you hear me yeah what can they the differ artist content creators content creators people content creators have to learn the art of creating content so if you're going

56:04 to just sit behind a table and let three cameras Play There's No Art to that you have to prepare you have to learn how to be a real filmmaker if you want to be in that business so you should know your lenses you should know how to break down and script you should know how many people you should be able to be a line producer you have to know how to be to really respect the art if you're going to be a musician then you got to play an instrument you got to rehearse eight hours a day you can't get on a stage

56:27 with a track doing karaoke expect to get paid without rehearsing there's no respect for the art you have to take more time with your craft the reason why people are making so much money and then all a sudden they not because it's [ __ ] when you're [ __ ] getting You Freestyle there's no to it that [ __ ] don't last long so who's who do who do you know that's a really good filmmaker that can really shoot that really can do all these things that's not making no real money that's

56:56 doing it like real I don't see nobody but a lot of times people that make content it's three minutes they don't know how to do you know structurally beginning middle and end beginning introduction of characters middle conflict and resolution there's just certain things you got to know but how do you do that when Disney is [ __ ] falling apart ESPN is and shambles with the exception of a few Talent like they're spending too much see you're talking about linear television that's what you're talking

57:26 about well podcasts are [ __ ] okay Daniel SP2 billion on podcast he's not had a positive return yet so it's not just linear it's podcasting as well it's digital most people are not making the money Daniel from Spotify yeah go ahead because they're not getting the they're not getting the full CPM they're getting robbed tell us more well if a CPM is $22 and you only getting $2 and they getting AR rest if Snoop Dog could [ __ ] get go a billion streams and only make $40,000 that's why that's crazy because

58:07 when we do you know when we every million people you get like seven Grand where the [ __ ] in the world do you go platinum and only make seven Grand that's [ __ ] that's why we broke we get we're broke because we getting robbed that's the reason why worse than record deals yeah that's a fact well record deals that's why the laws are changing they're just understanding them so they're going to get regulated I mean but even moving it up to a penny per stream is still robbery yeah like what like there's no [ __ ]

58:36 way I drive seven million people to get a penny per stream and then can't see the data and see who bought but dang man I'm G let right you don't get you know how much money you know how much money people make from data not people billions billions and think about it we don't even know about that [ __ ] that's why we not making no money no teaches us how to make it you got to join dang I'mma let you go bro um I know you got a lot going on I appreciate you be out there I'll be out there tomorrow

59:06 you gonna come to the party on Saturday invite me all right I'mma hit you because I also you're gonna be in Columbia yes yep all yeah I might have to do a CEO show with you you want me like 13 shows bro at least at least when y'all gonna come use the studio so we can show black unity and that we can work together let me know when how far is it from Miami or Orlando how far is it it's an hour from Orlando three hours from Miami let me know okay we I hit you I'm G shoot you my number down sced let's really really let's do

59:42 something artistic pause that can make us good residual income to me if you got to make content every day you breaking your [ __ ] back you want to be able to make something not work for 20 years and make money from it 20 years later while you sitting by the pool so that's the purpose of making content that you don't have to do it over and over again script it challenge yourself the day you walked in I said your whole crew was funny y'all need to do a scripted movie did I not tell you that that's a fact yeah so

01:00:11 push yourself bro this is too easy for you man you're overqualified to be doing TV shows on Zoom well you said don't call it a podcast call it a show don't say it's a zoom zoom I'm never calling a [ __ ] Zoom TV show I got to respect the art all right shotty put us in group text let's get this [ __ ] going I'm challenging you to be great I appreciate got you I appreciate that love you brother artist around right I'm in competition with all of them they make a record I make a record they do a show I

01:00:46 do a show they design I design something I want that smoke yeah hey D We Buy in Gary pardon what are we doing in Gary let me know I'm I'm going if you in New York the the mayor's out there now he'll be there shout shout out to Eddie shotty we got to do something n we gonna do it we gonna do it but D listen da I'm I'mma take hold hold on hold hold on did I not tell you to come to Gary three [ __ ] years ago to come do this [ __ ] podcast thing with me the thing and you were like oh it's not a good Market I'm

01:01:18 gonna be in Chicago we never did it remember that dang you play my my home County right from East Chicago Indiana hit me I said we are you G let me talk I said shout out to the 29 we had a show shout out to Gary Indiana we had a show now shout outs right how many shout Rick Jilla stop yeah I said we had a show in Chicago which is I tell him about my congressman in Indie Congressman hit me here your boys is here why y'all everywhere I be at because I tell y'all where to go shout out Eddie yo Eddie a legend

01:02:07 Eddie been putting work for a long time he in New York dop D yeah yeah he's a good dude man he bleed absolutely B that [ __ ] he love that [ __ ] Dam yeah man yo listen for one minute be out there I'm I'mma take you off the camera but leave it on for a minute because your your footage just gota finish uh down you got you got finish uploading yeah as I take you off just leave just leave your your computer on for a minute talking to Kitty red is the next big deal right here trust me how you doing nice to meet you how's it

01:02:44 going we gotta come to the studio we'll be seeing you soon okay shout out to Dame Dash the legend himself never Ault moment with d and shout out to Gary Indiana um East Chicago Indiana for full oh you ain't [ __ ] with the G hey everybody in the Bronx and Gary Terry Town leave my boy alone he didn't know he did not know Freddy Gibbs he did not know hold up no for full context we was um we had a show in Chicago so um Gary believe is um like minutes away yeah so it it's difficult to do a show in Chicago and

01:03:32 then do a show in Gary it's kind of like it's like doing a show in in New York City and doing a show in Newark New Jersey the next week and it was like very close to each other so um what you what you learn from this conversation I I'm gonna let you talk you feel good to be able to speak ain't it um I mean I I definitely have always seen a lot of myself and Dame my my Approach my dad's approach but the other side is like if you become a nemesis to someone else you can't tell them how to

01:04:06 respond so like if you hit somebody especially in front of that girl like yeah he gonna wage war against you for 20 years like I think he's incredibly Innovative what he's done with the streaming and the music business and like just even having the flare like d was the first CEO that I knew that was black like but this the thing that we talked about um you have to be able to get along with your partners because then if you if you rub the relationships the wrong way it's still a relationship at the end of the day regardless of how

01:04:37 much money you're making you have to be able to get along like shout shout out to blackout shout out to the show like we couldn't have did this three years ago like [ __ ] had to be smoothed out and plus people forget like we were just learning each other too so when I we on the phone I'm going tell yall the story like shoty called me like yo bro you don't want no ass on the show like I I want no [ __ ] ass on the show I don't care what dud I don't care about them CP all that [ __ ] and it was

01:05:00 like all right bro I'm like damn I went too far I was Chicago [ __ ] right so the business model was right but the approach was wrong especially and my grandmother used to always tell me it's like if you disrespect a man especially in business make sure you do it in private and not public you can't defame somebody or harass or assault somebody and not expect them to get back if they're not built a a certain way so I've learned you can be right in the business model and The Innovation but you still have to have

01:05:32 like that power of knce to be able to get things done so you don't make a bunch of enemies but what what about you what were like the top two or three lessons you took away shout out to Dame always a um uh you know action-packed conversation whenever we speak to Dame and um you know I felt that um he brought up a few different points as far as a narrative that has been constructed in his opinion has been constructed of him that might not might not necessarily be true right I think that's interesting way of that um you

01:06:05 know sometimes people can paint a narrative um so it's important to be mindful mindful because public perception is important in business right um whether we like it or not it's something that is important but um that's why you always leave with a compliment then give the critique and then compliment again uh that's a good lesson be be quick to praise and slow to criticize tell me more um that's a that's a famous call I think um it's in uh Dale Carnegie's book I forgot which person said this but it's one of these

01:06:44 like really like Titans of industry and they were saying that um you know and encouragement discipline does it's like like discipline um is effective but encouragement is way more beneficial right so it's people respond to encouragement more than they respond to discipline so um even you know when finding fault in somebody try to try to find a compliment before you find the fault right and that'll help um the morale yeah of the situation if possible sometimes it's not some people just people are in are incompetent and you

01:07:24 have no choice but to you know hold them accountable for their for their um failures but I like the public I'm interested to see what the public has to say and that's the beauty of the show right is that it's not up to us it's up to the public to decide so um you know this is one of these blackout it's called blackout for a Reason by the way yeah and he told a lot of Truth lawyers to the accountants for sure people being in your Partners ear even we talked about it before on Mark and Mondays last

01:07:52 year you like y i see the comments about yo I go make another show it's like and we did it wasn't what they was thinking you know that's a common theme of like accountants um and it's like you know it's one of these things right where More Money More Problems right like when you get to a certain point there's no preparation of what to do when you get there there's no preparation of how to manage your money correctly there's no preparation on on how to buy a house who to trust um it happened to me I got I got I got

01:08:25 robbed by a real estate developer right so it's like there's so many different pitfalls that you have to go through that you can't appreciate until you actually get to that point and there's no preparation for it this this is this is on a job training you learn as you go so it's like you know it's easy to criticize and say okay well you should have known this you should have known that well you're not you're not even in a position to even say that because you can't have a full perspective until you

01:08:53 actually get there especially for him and 9798 like it was hard to get a Rob report in Fortune Magazine if you were in the hood 9798 like um I know puff gets a lot of [ __ ] now but he was the first one I've seen to like hit that list for artists and like that's how that was my introduction to Forbes so it's tough like I think people now kind of take this information for granted but this was not common conversation even seven years ago so in 97 98 99 trying to figure it out especially how treacherous

01:09:25 the music is like it's it was amazing he was able to even pull that off and fight all those battles and still be good and for those of y'all who be like yo Dame not doing good I haven't been to the one in LA but Dame's doing good y'all can stop the he's struggling no he not no he's not yeah people are crazy no he's not and in five years you GNA see people go to that model of big house production like yo I I saw some of them cameras Dennis where you at I I know what some of them costs I'll be looking

01:10:02 hey B&H Dame doing good but I think it's a great lesson and we have to be very careful of who we extend our resources to and brand to um going forward and who we choose to help and and equity and perpetuity oh baby and perpetuity so that was a Kenny Burns type Vibe where it took up pretty much the whole episode uh y you want to do a bonus round or you want to just call it I'm I'm I'm hit a rock if if you want to go longer pause let's do one bonus question shall we okay um let's do one bonus

01:10:45 question when is it okay this a two-part question back to the relationships okay when do you introduce somebody that you're dating to your child that's the first part of the question okay um I don't know for me now going forward probably at least has to be a year uh minimum and then it we have to be on like a trajectory to be in something incredibly special like everyone doesn't need to meet my child I think that certain relationships have to be preserved um I've done shorter time frames than that before in the past

01:11:28 based on circumstances but going forward at least a year you you'll see them on the show or social media but real life ah no way I'm good so that's my rule of thumb at least a year okay yeah I never I never really introduced anybody to my son yet because I haven't really been with somebody long enough um and I'm very like I just kind of um lry I'm just mindful right of even from his perspective it's a difficult situation obviously I know that he you know obviously you know you never know

01:12:02 what a with a child it's a difficult situation when you still have a um the relationship with a mom is different right then Rel with Dad like you you might unintentionally cause issues if you bring somebody around without a full understanding conversation of like you know cuz then it's like they could either take a lik to that person or they could have some resentment because you're not with the mother and they would they would ideally like you to be with their mom and have a and have a family traditional family unit right and a

01:12:38 couple other things so I just I felt like it's just always easier to just keep it separate that's how that's me person I just always felt like it was I don't because then I don't have to worry about anything right I don't have to worry about explaining something I don't have to worry about if things go bad I got to tell them I don't worry about asking him how do you feel about this I just I just keep it separate so so you know I don't even have to worry about it and it's just it's just something that's

01:12:59 just been beneficial so but I feel like if it's getting really really serious like you said like you know over a year or something like that or a couple years or whatever you know obviously you can't hide somebody so if it's getting to a point where it's a it's a very very serious situation or you know it makes sense then you know of course you introduce him um but I don't think I don't rush I would never rush to bring people around my kid I A lot of times you might meet somebody on Wednesday and

01:13:26 then next Friday they all going into the movies together right or I just I just feel like you just got to be extremely careful about who you bring around your kid for a variety of different reasons but you got to take their feelings into consideration that's the part that I don't think people think about how does a child feel about this right because then it's like and if you bring multiple people it's gonna be confusing because he's going to see you with multiple different people and then

01:13:53 it's like you know so you can talk to train him to be that way when he gets older too like you said or they get to missing him when when things don't work out I've been there so the second part to that question is what do you do if your child does not like the person that you're with or vice versa if if the person if the girl don't like my son yeah [ __ ] you gotta go [ __ ] here first like what I wish a [ __ ] would have the audacity what boy I made some other ones pack up fast v no Mama go what all right so so what if what if

01:14:39 your child doesn't like the person that you're with I would have to know the reason why um now if things were like planted in their head or you know it was implanted that may be different but if there's a a gut feeling my thing is like I think children can pick up on Vibes and character a lot quicker than we can because they're not tainted by the lust and all that right so if there's a reason he's like hey I don't like this person I definitely have take consideration I want to know why but I'm

01:15:11 going to side with Xander like so if he wasn't comfortable like you got to go or if anybody makes him uncomfortable you gotta go I can find another girl like y'all don't see me do it po new vacation hey but I only get one child and I had him on purpose love him dearly like I think kids going back to the fings part I don't think kids feelings are considered enough because they know if their parent is going to trip if they tell the truth um so yeah if he didn't have a good relationship a good rapport

01:15:43 with somebody I definitely take it serious what about you though it's a tough situation fortunately I've never been in that situation but I mean that's a difficult situation right because it's like a child could not like somebody for for no apparent reason just because they don't like the person right the person could have done nothing wrong what age are we talking like young or like well not like a twoyear old like because I'm talking about like if the child like my son is like 13 right yeah

01:16:12 or if they're like 10 years old or gotta okay if they're because if they're 18 years old then you're already adult bro you're not you're not you're not going to influence my relationship because you have an attitude um but if you're a if you're like 12 10 eight it's awkward especially if you're in a serious relationship and you you guys are around each other um because the person like a woman let's say let's just say I was dating somebody she could be a perfect person she could have no

01:16:43 character flaw she could be extremely sweet the child might not like that person because it's just not his mother that could be the only re he doesn't like her right that's true so that's not necessarily a reason to end a relationship because in that situation you're never going to be with anybody because they it's gonna be the next person is gonna be the same issue if that's the reason why they don't like the person then that's something that you got to have a conversation with your

01:17:12 child about to say look me and your mom didn't work out you know she's still your mom nobody's goingon to replace her but in life sometimes relationships don't work out and people find happiness in other people these are conversations that you you got to make your child you are [ __ ] good I got my my conversation be way different but you right I'mma take your approach listen listening to Dame I'm like if that's me in 10 years I gotta I got straight I my thing with D I didn't

01:17:43 get a chance to say this to him because we didn't get a chance to speak too much obviously but the thing about it is that you know like I said I love D Char D and he brought up valid points as far as him um if he changed how he was there would be no Rockefeller right cuz he had to be a pitbull in order for them to actually get and that's that's very that's very understandable but there's a thing called changing over the course of time like you see Mike Tyson now I mean now because he's training for a fight but in

01:18:14 general he's not the same person that he was when he was 21 22 years old right he's yeah you you you grow so it's like you might have came in the door on some you know kamakazi just blow this whole thing up situation and that at that time was needed as you get okay now you're in the buildings and there's billions of dollars that's being made and hundreds of millions of dollars coming in it's a thing approach you become a little bit more diplomatic right in your Approach at least you could still have

01:18:46 that but your communication might be a little bit more diplomatic you might be a little bit more laidback you might be a little bit more understanding of things um and that's my only situation I feel like sometimes you it's you you gotta you can't be the same exact person forever like you know what I'm saying at some point in time it's just it got to change so I say I to say as far as my communication I just try to you know you gotta think about um how somebody would want to hear a message that's how always

01:19:19 think like how how would I want to hear a message like if somebody's tell if somebody's telling me that that they have problem with my work ethic that um I'm doing things bad that all these different things right yeah how would I want to hear the message I don't want to hear the message like yo you're a lazy piece of [ __ ] that that that's triggering and I'm gonna gonna get defensive I would went ahead and M like look like you're super talented super cre I Believe In You Yep this this is

01:19:48 what we need a little bit more right like we we have to have this done if I'm like okay I can understand I still might be mad because nobody wants to hear themselves being criticized I still might be a little bit mad but I'll take the criticism because the way that it was delivered was in a manner that was not threatening and it was not embarrassing to me right yeah not degrad yeah I wasn't embarrassed and I didn't feel threatened so I have to take it in that I I'll digest it and then I'll come back

01:20:19 and I and I I'll try to be a better person so I just feel like communication is extremely important but um Rockefeller records you know you can't you can't erase the history it's legendary any no matter what anybody says it's legendary and um you know I just hope that you know I don't think that they'll ever be on the same page but at one point in time in life before it's all over hopefully they can just be at very least civil um and um you know when it comes to Steve Stout obviously

01:20:49 everybody knows that we have a work a working relationship with United Masters and we have a relationship sh with Steve Stout also um but we have an objective platform so I I I'm not co-signing anything that's said about Steve Stout um but it's not my job to be a public defender either right I have a relationship with with Dame Dash I have a relationship with Steve Stout both of them have been beneficial to us both of them are different people they have different personalities I can see how both be difficult to work with

01:21:27 from a yeah from a pure honest standpoint I can see how both of them can be difficult to work with but I I can also see how both of them are extremely intelligent um and are extremely talented people and I can see why both of them are legends in their own regard and why both of them have shifted the culture in their own regard so you know men men sometimes have problems and pride ego and different things come into play so I never get in the middle of of men's beefs or men's issues if I if I can help the situation

01:22:00 but this is the situation I can't help so I I remove myself from from that situation um but just to let people know so because you know it could be awkward you see us with Stout you see us with d but I'm neutral in this situation I have respect for both of those gentlemen and um hopefully they one day they can kind of just sit down and have a conversation and resolve their issues you know at the end of the day they both black at the end of the day that's how I look at like they both black men so um if you're

01:22:29 black hundreds of millions of dollars if that's taken not to cut you off man that's gonna be tough to Dame to want to sit down if he believes that yeah yeah it's tough but that goes back to the adjusting thing like I keep saying that every day that you leave the house people are plotting and looking to see how can I take that [ __ ] from him everybody and even if Steve did do that today he pulled it off that's the other part about the Ving that nobody ever talks about if leor is a vure man he made a hell of a lot of money being a

01:23:01 vure he made a ton Vlad made a ton of money being a vure going back to work ethic my one thing I always say about Vlad he gonna get them three minute videos up other content creators I'll see y'all go hot for two or three weeks and you'll stop for six even yo you doing another show you recording again yeah gotta add this to my bag to get the Vanguard yes that's a fact so all right my brother man I appreciate you it's been real man legendary episode um I'm let you talked a whole week since Dame over talk to I

01:23:42 was trying to scream you know Le pin down going wasn't gonna happen man but all right guys be safe out there we'll see you on Monday for Market Mondays