10 - The Search for Sheree - Last Man Standing

Context of Events

  • Location: Ogden, Utah

  • Date: October 1985 and significant events in COVID-19 2020

Background Events

  • Fathers' Tragedy: Two young fathers shot outside a restaurant, leading to personal grief.

  • Impact of COVID-19:

    • Pandemic leads to lockdowns.

    • Businesses and schools closed; streets quiet.

    • Surge in demand for sewing services, specifically masks handmade by citizens.

Dave Moore's Sewing Machine Shop

  • Business: Remains open during pandemic.

  • History: Located where Sherry Warren disappeared in 1985.

  • Bar Encounter: Dave meets Carrie Hartman, who has just been released from 32 years in prison.

Carrie Hartman's Background

  • Prison Release: Hartman has a complicated history; initially charming, later revealed to have a darker side.

  • Family Dynamics: His mother, Donna, believed in his innocence until she died in 2013.

    • Hartman admits guilt to the parole board but claims innocence in private, adding complexity to his character.

Relationships and Interactions

  • Dave's Hesitance: Struggles to reconcile past memories of Carrie with recent revelations.

  • Parole Board: Hartman expected rejection upon release, indicating low self-esteem and anticipation of difficulties.

  • Brent Morgan's Statement: Refuses to reconnect with Hartman despite their childhood friendship, illustrating the community's rejection of Hartman post-incarceration.

Investigation of Sherry Warren's Disappearance

  • Detective's Perspective: John Frawley recounts the shifting dynamics of the case.

  • Carrie's Past Connections: Previous lies and alibis connected to Sherry’s disappearance; history of manipulation.

  • Cold Case Complexity: Sherry's case remains under investigation, with renewed urgency from Edwards family and investigators.

Polygraph Examination

  • Hartman's Cooperation: Under parole rules, Hartman required to take polygraph tests regarding Sherry's case.

  • Polygraph Results: Hartman failed the test, indicating deception related to his involvement in Sherry's disappearance.

  • Investigative Challenges: Efforts to obtain records of the polygraph met with bureaucratic resistance.

Accusations and Plans

  • Offer of Immunity: Presented to Hartman that would absolve him from prosecution for revealing the location of Sherry’s remains.

    • Hartman's skepticism leads him to consult his attorney, ultimately rejecting the offer.

  • Parallel Investigations: Continued efforts to navigate the complexities of evidence and testimonies between suspects, Chuck Warren and Carrie Hartman.

Speculative Narrative of Events

  • Timeline of October 2, 1985:

    • Sherry left work, headed potentially towards multiple locations (Wagstaff Toyota, Denny's).

    • Carrie Hartman at the bar during the same timeframe.

    • Witness accounts of loud arguments heard from Hartman’s apartment suggest violent confrontation.

  • Possible Murder Scenario: Speculation around the events of Sherry's disappearance reflects historical patterns of violence against women in relationships.

Investigative Challenges and Interrogation Techniques

  • Current Status: With many involved parties deceased, the case risks becoming unsolvable.

  • Ethical Dimensions: The complexities of evidence and societal treatment of women's lives and disappearances examined.

Witness Accounts and Detective Insight

  • John Frawley's Quote: Emphasizes the urgency in gathering testimonies from individuals who were involved before the window closes due to the passage of time.

  • Reflections on Past Investigations: Insight into the perspectives of various detectives involved in the case acknowledge missed clues and evolving understanding.

Concluding Thoughts on Sherry's Case

  • Existential Reflection: Investigation delves into societal issues regarding domestic violence and the treatment of victims, reinforcing the need for systemic change.

  • Call to Action: Listeners are reminded of available resources for victims of sexual violence and abuse, emphasizing community and familial responsibility in addressing these issues.

  • Podcast Production: Concludes with thanks from the production team and promotes awareness of ongoing issues pertaining to the narratives discussed.