Notes for Careers in Criminal Justice: Captain DeVito Interview & Personality Typology Discussion
Session Overview
- Instructor hosts a guest from the NYPD for a Careers in Criminal Justice class (two sections taught by the instructor). The guest, Captain DeVito, may sign off early on the 09:11 anniversary date and the class is balancing a live Q&A with ongoing updates.
- Emphasis on on-camera participation to respect the professional guest and avoid black boxes.
- The session blends career storytelling, self-discovery (through personality assessment), and discussion of real-world policing challenges.
- The instructor uses the format to humanize professionals and connect classroom theory to lived experience.
Captain DeVito: Background and Career Path
- Personal background:
- Grew up in Staten Island; family involved in policing (great grandfather a cop in Staten Island; father a cop in transit).
- Attended SUNY Albany; earned a sociology degree; joined NYPD within roughly a year after graduation.
- Spent time in Japan teaching English after college; returned to join the police academy, ultimately choosing policing as a career.
- Timeline and career arc:
- Joined NYPD in 2007–2008 (senior status similar to Captain DeVito’s generation; currently at 40s age range with retirement looming in the next several years).
- Early assignments included Manhattan Transit and an Anti-Terrorism Unit in Transit (ATU-Transit) at 50 Ninth Street/Columbus Circle.
- Transit District 2 (Canal Street area) for ~2.5 years; then assignment to Sunset Park, Brooklyn (72nd Precinct area) for ~4.5 years.
- Promotion and rank progression:
- Became a sergeant after taking the sergeant’s examination (a test taken after attaining two years as a sergeant is typical).
- Promoted to lieutenant, then moved through patrol and other bureaus.
- Worked in Sunset Park; later transferred to 66th Precinct; spent ~5.5 years there.
- Mopped up leadership experience on Staten Island (121 Precinct area: Mariners Harbor, Westerly, etc.) for ~16 months as executive officer, then returned to Transit District 2.
- Entered captain’s track; eventually assigned as commanding officer in Transit District 2 (the current role).
- Retirement considerations:
- In the NYPD, retirement eligibility is around the twenty-year mark; captains can potentially retire earlier by accumulating time toward pension (e.g., “nineteenth year” mentions and early retirement with sufficient time).
- Personal reflections on career choices:
- He emphasizes adaptability, mobility across bureaus, and the importance of building a credible reputation; decisions about transfer and postings can accelerate or delay career progression.
- He notes the value of building time in rank to maximize pension eligibility and to ensure a steady, sustainable retirement plan.
Police Career Structure and Day-to-Day (NYPD)
- The NYPD is organized into three main bureaus relevant to patrol work:
- Academy and promotions:
- Initial police academy training lasts about 6 months.
- After the academy, officers advance through appointed postings and must pass promotion exams (e.g., sergeant after two years in rank; lieutenant exam; captain exams). The lieutenant exam is a 100-question test based on a patrol guide that expands yearly.
- Promotions depend on test results, seniority, and department needs; timing can vary (e.g., some personnel get promoted faster than others depending on openings and performance).
- Daily routines and duties of a captain (Transit District 2):
- Start around 06:30; oversee “turning out” of units downtown (World Trade Center area) and assign personnel.
- On-call 24/7; radios and camera feeds are constantly monitored; duty captain coverage when needed.
- Typical day involves communicating with crime analysis, overseeing platoon supervisors, and ensuring proper deployment of resources via the radio and top-side commands.
- Homicide response: In early tenure at Transit District 2, he encountered multiple homicides (first four months: three homicides; all closed by arrest) – reflecting the intensity and high-stakes nature of transit policing.
- Overtime: For captains, overtime is time-based rather than cash-based under his contract; other ranks may receive cash overtime in some circumstances.
- Routine operations and decision-making:
- The captain is a key decision-maker, coordinating with sergeants, lieutenants, and the Executive Officer (EXO) and Chief to ensure strategic direction is followed.
- He explains that most calls are processed through central dispatch; the captain intervenes if a situation is serious or not progressing as planned.
- Accountability: if something goes wrong in the district, it’s attributed to leadership decisions; if things go well, the team’s execution is acknowledged—emphasizing a leadership burden of responsibility.
- Key on-the-ground activities:
- Supervising crime analysis to ensure accurate crime classifications (e.g., 60-1 forms) for reliable COMSTAT reporting and resource allocation.
- Ensuring proper documentation and classification so that analytical insights can guide targeted deployments.
- Coordinating with integrity control officers and admin lieutenant for pressing issues.
- Monitoring on-camera feeds and radio communications to direct units efficiently.
- Interagency and cross-bureau dynamics:
- Transfers between bureaus ( patrol, transit, housing ) require pre-approval and strategic alignment with career goals.
- The role emphasizes adaptability to different precincts (e.g., Manhattan, Sunset Park, Staten Island) and knowledge of local areas (e.g., Canal Street, 8th Avenue, Chinatown areas).
9/11 Memory and Duty Context in Public Service
- DeVito mentions a duty-related obligation on significant anniversary dates (09:11) to acknowledge fallen colleagues and the memorials related to the 9/11 attacks.
- He notes the heavy responsibilities that come with public service, including personal time and family considerations due to the on-call requirement.
- This context helps illustrate the emotional and ethical load carried by police leadership in major urban centers.
Challenges in Modern Policing (NYPD) and Institutional Dynamics
- Probable cause vs. stop-and-frisk/stop decisions:
- Officers can stop someone for less than probable cause, but arrests require probable cause; this tension shapes daily policing efficiency.
- Quality-of-life enforcement and prosecution:
- QA issues: many offenders have extensive prior records; the DA’s office decisions heavily shape what gets prosecuted.
- A common challenge is repeat offenders who cycle through arrests and rapid releases; addressing recidivism requires multi-pronged strategies.
- NYPD has experimented with a quality-of-life enforcement stance to address ongoing nuisance crimes and reduce opportunities for more serious offenses.
- Emotionally disturbed persons (EDPs) and mental health:
- EDPs can be unpredictable and dangerous; mental health treatment adherence is a challenge (relapse when medications stop; rationales for med adherence vary).
- The need for de-escalation and supportive interventions, alongside enforcement, is critical.
- Departmental and inter-agency dynamics:
- Variation across boroughs in prosecution philosophy and enforcement practices can lead to inconsistent outcomes.
- Leadership must balance enforcement with civil liberties and community relations, especially in a diverse city environment.
- Operational stressors for officers and leadership:
- The on-call culture and exposure to violence and life-threatening incidents contribute to morale and mental health concerns.
- Officers may become morally exhausted or demoralized when repeat offenses lead to limited long-term consequences for offenders.
- Real-time decision-making under pressure:
- The cadence of incident responses, the need to coordinate multiple units, and rapid adjustments to changing conditions require strong situational awareness and effective communication.
- The role of personal resilience and self-understanding:
- The conversation around personality types is framed as a way to understand one’s own strengths and stress responses, potentially reducing burnout by aligning work with personal tendencies.
Personality Typology and Self-Discovery (Humanmetrics)
- The class uses a typology test to help students understand themselves and align career paths accordingly.
- Test mechanics:
- Website: humanmetrics.com (linked in the chat and on Blackboard for students).
- The test measures personality across 16 types; common shorthand typologies include INTJ, ENFP, etc.
- Test design features:
- 64 questions; answers typically require quick, intuitive responses (yes/no) to capture a natural preference rather than deliberate overthinking.
- The psychologist-driven approach focuses on underlying personality dimensions rather than superficial traits.
- Rationale for the test:
- Self-awareness is essential for choosing compatible career paths and for advising students effectively.
- The test aims to provide actionable career suggestions that align with personality types (e.g., INTJ often gravitate toward strategic, analytic, leadership-oriented roles in academia, research, or high-level policy work).
- Process guidance for taking the test:
- Be honest and quick in responses to capture the subconscious tendency rather than overanalyzed decisions.
- The instructor emphasizes avoiding overthinking to preserve diagnostic validity and to reflect unconscious dispositions.
- Real-world example used in class:
- Naval Ravikant anecdote: A self-made billionaire who immigrated from India; his mother predicted he would be a successful business owner. The interviewer mentions this to illustrate how others (especially trusted insiders) may see capabilities more clearly than individuals can see themselves.
- The point: We often misjudge ourselves; external perspectives can illuminate natural strengths and potential paths.
- The role of the psychologist-like test in advising:
- The results help students explore careers that align with their intrinsic preferences and talents.
- The lecturer cautions that personality is not destiny; people can evolve and adapt through experience and leadership roles (e.g., moving from INTJ tendencies toward leadership or communication roles over time).
- Brief note on the four-letter codes:
- Examples discussed include INTJ and INTP; these shorthand codes summarize core cognitive preferences (e.g., introversion, intuition, thinking, judging vs. perceiving).
- The discussion emphasizes that letters can shift with growth and changing life roles; tests provide a snapshot, not a fixed ceiling.
Practical Exercise and Student Guidance
- Student activity: Complete the 64-question personality test now (the link is shared in chat and posted on Blackboard).
- Post-test discussion:
- Students report their four-letter type; the instructor aligns suggested careers with the type and discusses fit with their own goals.
- The session demonstrates how personality frameworks can guide career exploration and self-knowledge.
- Expected outcomes by next class:
- Ideally, all students will have their four-letter type identified and discussed in relation to potential career paths.
- The instructor plans to begin the next lesson from the point of understanding each student’s personality type.
Naval Ravikant, Self-Discovery, and Growth Mindset
- The lecturer revisits Naval Ravikant’s story to illustrate the value of self-knowledge and external insight:
- Ravikant’s high school mentor-style reflection on his path from science/engineering aspirations to entrepreneurship and business success.
- The broader message: People often grow into roles they didn’t expect; early self-assessment should be combined with external feedback to chart a viable path.
- Takeaway for students:
- Self-awareness is a lifelong process; even successful people continue to refine their identity and goals as circumstances change.
- Embrace opportunities for leadership, decision-making, and mentorship; these experiences can reveal latent talents and steer you toward fulfilling careers.
Attendance and Course Logistics
- Attendance is taken for the in-person cohort; an online attendance note is provided for online students.
- Next steps for the course:
- In-person meeting next week; a reading assignment will be posted on Blackboard.
- A short quiz will be administered at the start of class (to ensure engagement with the readings).
- The personality test results will serve as a foundation for the next week’s lesson focus.
- Student questions and accessibility:
- The instructor emphasizes that guest professionals will continue to join via Zoom when feasible to accommodate travel constraints; if a guest cannot attend in person, Zoom is used to keep sessions accessible.
- If a student misses prior steps, the instructor will “bump” links back into the chat so everyone can access the test.
Ethical, Philosophical, and Real-World Implications
- Ethical considerations:
- Use of personality tests as a tool for self-understanding and career planning should be complemented by critical thinking and professional experience.
- Recognition that personality does not determine destiny; growth, learning, mentorship, and opportunities can alter paths.
- Philosophical reflections:
- The tension between free will and structural constraints in policing (e.g., DA decisions, prosecution norms, and policy shifts) shapes career trajectories and everyday job satisfaction.
- The idea that leadership involves responsibility for outcomes (positive and negative) and requires resilience and adaptive thinking.
- Practical implications:
- For students: use the personality typology as a compass, not a cage; seek internships and experiences that align with identified strengths.
- For future professionals: prepare for a demanding schedule (on-call, rapid decision-making, exposure to violence) and prioritize mental health and support systems.
Quick Takeaways
- The NYPD path is non-linear and geography-dependent; promotions depend on exams, time in rank, and opportunities across bureaus.
- Daily leadership involves coordinating units, validating data (60-1 forms), and deploying resources to maximize safety and efficiency.
- Homicide responses and major incidents in transit require rapid mobilization and inter-unit coordination.
- Quality-of-life enforcement and DA policy significantly influence enforcement outcomes and officer morale.
- Personality tests (64 questions, 16 types) offer a structured way to understand preferences; results should be integrated with experience and growth opportunities.
- Personal growth in leadership roles often requires evolving beyond initial personality tendencies; leadership can amplify strengths in new directions.
- Test mechanics and typology:
- 64 questions: 64 questions in the personality assessment.
- 16 personality types: 16 distinct types (e.g., INTJ, INTP, etc.).
- Promotion and retirement timelines:
- Sergeant eligibility: after 2 years in rank (sergeant exam timing).
- Lieutenant exam cadence is variable and can occur on roughly a multi-year schedule depending on openings.
- Retirement eligibility discussions reference 20 years of service; also mentions potential retirement in the year window depending on time accrued.
- Day timings:
- Start times such as 06:30; overnight shifts from 11:30 PM to 08:00 AM (example shift).
- Patrol and assignment geography mentioned:
- Transit District 2 includes Canal Street up to the ferry terminals and areas near the West Side; Sunset Park corresponds to the 72nd Precinct area; Staten Island 121 Precinct covers Mariners Harbor, Westerly, etc.
Connections to Foundational Principles and Real-World Relevance
- The session links foundational concepts (self-knowledge, career alignment, and ethics in policing) to concrete practices (accountability, data-driven patrol deployment, and inter-agency collaboration).
- It illustrates how foundational principles (e.g., probable cause in policing, the tension between enforcement and civil liberties, and mental health considerations) play out in a large urban environment.
- The discussion of personality tests and growth demonstrates a practical application of psychology in education and career planning, emphasizing lifelong learning and adaptability.