WK 4: The Republic Book Pt 2

On page 151, what is said to be worth more than much gold?

Socrates says that, rather than be angry with them, Thrasymachos should rather have _______ for them?

On page 152, Thrasymachos asks Socrates what punishment they deserve if he can come up with a better definition of justice than those produced by them. What does Socrates say is the proper punishment for “one who does not know?”

What punishment does Thrasymachos believe they should get?

What definition of justice does Thrasymachos offer that he believes should be applauded?

What does Socrates reveal is really meant by the word ‘advantage’ in Thrasymachos’ definition?

According to page 154, does Socrates think Thrasymachos’ use of ‘advantage’ differs from what he used in his definition of justice as, ‘what is due,’ ‘useful,’ ‘profitable,’ ‘pays,’ or ‘benefits?’

Are rulers of a state infallible?

Can a ruler of a state mistakenly command what is not for the advantage of their self?

On pages 155 – 156, Socrates modifies Thrasymachos’ definition. What modification is made?

According to Thrasymachos, is a 'ruler' really a ruler when they are mistaken about what is their advantage?

On page 157, is a healer a moneymaker or one who heals the sick?

On page 158, what is meant by an art? (Greek = techne) How might it be defined?

For whose advantage does an art seek after? (pg. 158)

On page 159, what does Thrasymachos believe is the only reason a shepherd takes care of his sheep?

On page 160, what is the ‘most perfect injustice?’

Is justice or injustice more profitable?

On page 162, why do 'rulers' demand payment to rule?

On page 163, one who practices their art properly commands what is best for the _________?

What 'penalty' is said to be the 'wage' of the best man?

On page 166, who does the just man get the better of? Who does the unjust man get the better of?

On page 169, what will a gang or band of thieves use to attain an unjust purpose?

On page 171, what is the 'second question proposed'

On page 172, Socrates says the ‘soul’ has a work that it does. In what 3 ways does the soul work (i.e. function)?

When is a 'soul' said to have 'virtue'?

According to the functional way in which Thrasymachos defines a 'ruler', when is a doctor truly considered to be a doctor?

According to the logic of Socrates, when entering public office distinguished persons would?